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[Kloppstock]

Im a bit concerned about one of my hard-drives health

it keeps increasing the whole time in what the lowest-highest level for overheat is

there is no heavy process going on while it gets its overheat periods, well it may in heaviest cases copy some folders

to another hard-drive, that seems to be wery disturbing to the affected hard-drive, in other cases the overheats seem to start totally random

in my humble opinion...while my other drives stays colder in my hyper modern chill-chassi

Take a look at this pattern

[image link removed]

some month ago 59 degrees was the highest counted with full fan-breeze activated, then it was over 60 during later weeks

then today it exploded on 71, new Swedish record congratulations! i promise you 71 will return in the nearest days,

cause all i know is that it have always returned to exact same overheat degrees during its heat periods, you can either see it as a machine error

or you can chose see it as a false alarm by HD sentinel, that tracks to something other maybe?

still HD sentinel doesn't suggest the health is bad, or that this 71 degrees caused any damage to the drive, if i just turn of the computer for maybe 2 minutes during

the overheats, it will have dropped from 71 degrees down to 35 again and pretending it just rained lol

sometimes i feel brave and wait the drive out by not turn of the computer, and it can accually go down to normal temp again wery fast

Now i wanna have some suggestion how i shall think about this?

shall i worry about a coming disk crackdown that comes closer and closer the higher the temp raises during each period,

or shall i trust HD sentinel that the disk keeps having 91 % health no matter what temp it will show, and it in fact do have 434 days left to live

with 8 bad sectors that have on the other hand been moved away to safety :)

i have performed several disc scans, shows no error, even the WDC diagnostic lifeguard tool reports no problemo

so i have 4 HD in totals, there is some space between them where thei are inserted, those boxes are larger than my previous chassi..so i think

we can exclude the lack of middle room between drives, i changed chassi cause it became this hot, i get the most modern of Eskimo Pies, but still

it doesn't lower the temp on that drive only, it did lower my other 3 that was to warm in my old chassi

my disc is exactly 1300(0) days old today, however it was this year first..i started to monitor the hard-drive, HD sentinel detected one thing directly

that the highest temp ever measured hade been 76! in the past :) and i obvious hade no clues when this happend live, what im trying to suggest is that some indications suggest

that this could have been standard temp for several years, still the drive may have succeed to survive this some way

replace or keep it for some additional time?

[AlanHo]

Porn thumbnails when you enlarge the image reported to mods.

[Kloppstock]

Porn thumbnails when you enlarge the image reported to mods.

Yeah and it was off course all planned..this long text was just a cover up for show the porn thumb! :)

problem was that my attention was bad, adult content "yes" or "no"

i use to take for granted that imagebam default is already sett to "no"..that is obvious not the case

i would be glad to re-host that picture in a upcoming post if someone is interested? but at the same time i believe this thread is already dead commercialy

since senior AlanHo got offended by those small pictures ;)

[bludgard]

Do you yhink this is the proper forum for porn?

How do you take a picture and post it,and a whole nother image is substituted?

[bludgard]

Porn thumbnails when you enlarge the image reported to mods.

Yeah and it was off course all planned..this long text was just a cover up for show the porn thumb! :)

problem was that my attention was bad, adult content "yes" or "no"

i use to take for granted that imagebam default is already sett to "no"..that is obvious not the case

i could re-host that picture in a upcoming post, but at the same time i believe this thread is already destroyed commercialy

since senior AlanHo got offended by those small pictures ;)

If this was unintentional,HD heat is the least of your worries. :0

[bludgard]

For your original post,have you inspected your heat sink and/or thermal paste?

[Kloppstock]

Do you yhink this is the proper forum for porn?

How do you take a picture and post it,and a whole nother image is substituted?

Sorry..not "Imagebam","Image socket" i meant above, it is not a porn hosting site naturaly,

i think it was the human factor that caused this mistake, perhaps i chosed "adult content" as and old pattern

for other boards ;) yeah that was probably the case, i shall do my best to stay focus from now on

I don't know what you guys are seeing in the countries your internet resides in :0 all i know is what i have seen the whole time in-front of my screen is this pic

with some tiny links under it..feat some tired "temptation girls"

[Kloppstock]

For your original post,have you inspected your heat sink and/or thermal paste?

I hope the thread can survive and that we forget about that hosting mistake, if the moderator

remove whatever crap you other see in post 1

Im not 100 % what a heat sink are located and looks like?, but i suppose it was included in this box of mine
/>http://www.pricerunner.se/pl/186-1114486/Chassin/Antec-Twelve-Hundred-HighTower-ATX-Black-priser

Im sorry i have no competence in how to check the thermal paste on the hard-drive, i understand what it is..but what errors am i looking for specific?

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

I hope the thread can survive and that we forget about that hosting mistake, if the moderator

remove whatever crap you other see in post 1

Images are a very important part of documenting a problem such as yours. This is why most forums offer ways to upload images and insert them into the posts.

Please, in future, use the forum's own image hosting capabilities (by using the 'Click To Attach Files' button under the text input area) instead of resorting to dubious 3rd-party hosting sites.

[AlanHo]

i would be glad to re-host that picture in a upcoming post if someone is interested? but at the same time i believe this thread is already dead commercialy

since senior AlanHo got offended by those small pictures ;)

What makes you think I was offended? As a senior there is not much that I haven't seen before. This is a public forum attended by a wide audience - including minors - and posting porn here is totally unacceptable.

I'm afraid that your second attempt at posting an image has also fallen foul of the forum rules because instead of porn, you have now (unwittingly?) attached commercial adverts which are regarded here as spam.

Regarding your problem, I don't understand the reference to the heat sink and thermal paste with regard to a hard drive - it is the cpu that is kept cool in this way. If your hard drive really is getting too hot (and not the result of a faulty monitoring program) it is likely to be a case ventilation issue or signs of an imminent hard drive failure.

[bludgard]

For your original post,have you inspected your heat sink and/or thermal paste?

I apologize for the out of place post.I was just on the phone with a friend and we had a drawn out discussion on CPU overheating.I had a moment....I'll blame it on PTS.

Kloppstock's box has 8 controllable fans-if I'm not mistaken-3 for HD assemblies;"The front of the chassis features three removable hard-drive cages. Each holds three drives, and Antec has added rubber grommets to the carriers to absorb vibration and reduce noise. Every cage a 120mm fan, each with its own LED and a knob that helps you set its speed anywhere from 1,200rpm to 2,000rpm—much more convenient than having to open the side panel, as with previous Antec cases."(Taken from a review).There are also removable and washable filters.

Maybe a fan isn't operating as it should?Maybe a little cleaning?Possibly a failing HD as AlanHo suggests.The review mentioned "Excellent cooling",even "Tremendous".So I am going to step back from this one.

If anyone cares to read the review:HERE is the link.

Good luck,Kloppstock.And remember,discretion goes a long way....

[Kloppstock]

i would be glad to re-host that picture in a upcoming post if someone is interested? but at the same time i believe this thread is already dead commercialy

since senior AlanHo got offended by those small pictures ;)

What makes you think I was offended? As a senior there is not much that I haven't seen before. This is a public forum attended by a wide audience - including minors - and posting porn here is totally unacceptable.

I'm afraid that your second attempt at posting an image has also fallen foul of the forum rules because instead of porn, you have now (unwittingly?) attached commercial adverts which are regarded here as spam.

Regarding your problem, I don't understand the reference to the heat sink and thermal paste with regard to a hard drive - it is the cpu that is kept cool in this way. If your hard drive really is getting too hot (and not the result of a faulty monitoring program) it is likely to be a case ventilation issue or signs of an imminent hard drive failure.

First of all i was sarcastic there with the word "senior" cause i can never take for granted that people who have avatars of a random senior are truly their self portrait,

so i just wanted to joke with you...by using the avatar against you, but i guess this was the eye opener that seniors don't only play bridge with each other...........on the computer ;)

but the possibility that the picture could be indeed really you...woke only 1 suspiciousness, you must be one of those American conservative christian seniors who gets upset of everything even though thei have seen it all allso ;)

but that was in turn based on the fact that we didn't see the same things on our screens in the first place if i understand you all right?,

i saw some small small previews under my hosten HD sentinel picture, feat some vulgar dressed temptationers, but not to classify as disturbing porn

can anybody inform me what you guys saw? it cant be the same can it?

Now i have learned the rules (im overactive minded) im gonna attach the controversial picture correct here

For your original post,have you inspected your heat sink and/or thermal paste?

I apologize for the out of place post.I was just on the phone with a friend and we had a drawn out discussion on CPU overheating.I had a moment....I'll blame it on PTS.

Kloppstock's box has 8 controllable fans-if I'm not mistaken-3 for HD assemblies;"The front of the chassis features three removable hard-drive cages. Each holds three drives, and Antec has added rubber grommets to the carriers to absorb vibration and reduce noise. Every cage a 120mm fan, each with its own LED and a knob that helps you set its speed anywhere from 1,200rpm to 2,000rpm—much more convenient than having to open the side panel, as with previous Antec cases."(Taken from a review).There are also removable and washable filters.

Maybe a fan isn't operating as it should?Maybe a little cleaning?Possibly a failing HD as AlanHo suggests.The review mentioned "Excellent cooling",even "Tremendous".So I am going to step back from this one.

If anyone cares to read the review:HERE is the link.

Good luck,Kloppstock.And remember,discretion goes a long way....

Yeah it have a knob to control the winds, and thei are on full everywhere, when purchasing this i hade my high tech friend over watched if all fans where

active..and thei where indeed at least then, i know there are some temperature free wares out there

the problems is that this drive get affected by so little pressure, it allays rush upwards to "yellow class" temperature as soon as Perfect Disc intend to

perform a STEALTH De-fragmentation of this drive, why i believe it have nothing to do with anything on the current chassi is the fact that it was the same

thing on my old chassi worthy of 1992 in airiness capability,

the best would be if i could take control over the global SMART settings, and force certain wind powers? but i don't think i can

handle it myself manually..especially not inside BIOS, i know there is some settins there "automatic fan control" i think the name is?

i don't know if it can be worth it to sett it to "ON", cause we already did that earlier when we installed this new uber-chassi, and that caused

the extra-fan we borrowed from my old chassi to not spin at all, but when we setted "automatic fan control" to "disabled" all fans finally spined

that former problem extra-fan is currently located near the plexiglass window on the ANTEC chassi,

so it chills on the motherboard only basicly, but there are so many fans even if you chose to not add any extra fan yourself to this package, it should be enough to disable

it...if that instead open up for taking full control of the other HD fans?

if you wonder what my BIOS looks like, all i can tell you is my computer specifications

AMD Phenom 2™ X4 945

I have used the little application FAN-speed earlier, but i uninstalled it when i purchased this ANTEC chassi, i was wery sure it where not needed any more

to use settings like "automatic temp change" perhaps i was wrong? and i shall install it again or something better? it was hard to config for newbies

[-pops-]

If the high temperature is real and not just something that the Sentinel software is telling you, then you should be concerned.

High temperatures on hard drives, especially if there is efficient external cooling, can often indicate a progressing mechanical failure of bearings in the platters or drive motor. If that is the case, be prepared for catastrophic failure of the drive and prepare full backups of your system or, better, replace the drive with a new one.

Remember also that cooling fans need to be thoughtfully and correctly positioned. It is useless installing more and more fans if the are working against each other.

[Kloppstock]

If the high temperature is real and not just something that the Sentinel software is telling you, then you should be concerned.

High temperatures on hard drives, especially if there is efficient external cooling, can often indicate a progressing mechanical failure of bearings in the platters or drive motor. If that is the case, be prepared for catastrophic failure of the drive and prepare full backups of your system or, better, replace the drive with a new one.

Remember also that cooling fans need to be thoughtfully and correctly positioned. It is useless installing more and more fans if the are working against each other.

Yes off course, what im trying to determine is if it really can go from 100 % health to non function in a second?, with no further warnings before the crash..other than

the drive just was hot just before, now i have HD sentinel running the whole time, but if it can go from 100 % health to 0% so to speak, HD Sentinel will not be able to warn me in time offcourse

so the question is how mutch trust i shall put in all bechmark scans that all say the same...there is no problem with the drive

[MANEMAN]

Just backup everything that you've got on the "Hot" hardrive.

Some files like .png and .jpg dont like heat because of their different pigmentation.

Keep running that thang until it starts screamin' "Momma" ! and finally bites the dust. :(

2 years later when it probably hasn't happened write in to this forum again and update us.

We like to keep our finger on the pulse.

Yours Sincerely,

Redneck Computer help and supplies. :lol:

Yeah it have a knob to control the winds

I kood do with one of them. Pickles,Chillies,and Zucchini play hell with ma guts. Ma can stand the smell, but it makes her nose bleed.

I digress.

Meanwhile Kloppstock have a look here: *Overheatin' Disks and stuff* There are about 620,000 hits on the subject. I'm sure if you start reading through you will soon find the answer to your question. Sure is gonna save you a lot of time writing if you can find the answer all on your ownsom'.

John. ;)

Edit: Have you seen my glasses ? They were here at the start of the post.

[bludgard]

Try a different temp monitor,unless of course you know for sure that the drive assembly IS getting hot.

(Have you opened up the case to see if everything is seated properly?)

(Are you-like me-a subscriber of overclocking?)

In my humble opinion,HD's can give up the ghost with no warning whatsoever.Yet most modern computers have a failsafe embedded in the BIOS that will shut the whole system down before a fatal overheating of a hard drive.

Something just isn't quite adding up-many HD's are severly damaged at 60-70*C.It would seem that either you have an exceptionally hearty HD,or you monitor isn't reading this drive correctly-for whatever reason.

[MANEMAN]

Careful bludgard. - He'll play ya.

John.

[bludgard]

Careful bludgard. - He'll play ya.

John.

Best post I've seen on this thread yet.

Good lookin' out.

[AlanHo]

First of all i was sarcastic there with the word "senior" cause i can never take for granted that people who have avatars of a random senior are truly their self portrait,

so i just wanted to joke with you...by using the avatar against you, but i guess this was the eye opener that seniors don't only play bridge with each other...........on the computer ;)

but the possibility that the picture could be indeed really you...woke only 1 suspiciousness, you must be one of those American conservative christian seniors who gets upset of everything even though thei have seen it all allso ;)

but that was in turn based on the fact that we didn't see the same things on our screens in the first place if i understand you all right?,

i saw some small small previews under my hosten HD sentinel picture, feat some vulgar dressed temptationers, but not to classify as disturbing porn

can anybody inform me what you guys saw? it cant be the same can it?

Now i have learned the rules (im overactive minded) im gonna attach the controversial picture correct here

Now you have upset me - the suggestion that I might be American and Christian. I can stand the senior jibe but this is a step too far. I will have you know that I am English to the core and a galvanised atheist. My photo is genuine.

Regarding the porn - I can assure you that your image was surrounded by about 10 hard core thumbnail videos of the most graphic kind. It made my poor old eyes water.............

[Kloppstock]

Bump! i have speed-fan showing the same temp as HD sentinel now, so your worries seem to be right

and if i just turn of this computer or 3 minutes now...it will pretend it just rained

and go down to 33, make sense?

what i did to trigger the temp on this disc? i just installed a firmware to my DVD-player from another hard-drive...

i have not backuped this drive yet, cause this seems to work for an eternity without crashing..do you still think im playing with death here?

[-pops-]

i have not backuped this drive yet, cause this seems to work for an eternity without crashing..do you still think im playing with death here?

A backup should be a priority for every computer, not just those that may be in danger of self destruct.

[MANEMAN]

do you still think im playing with death here?

Nah ! Calm down Chopstick Kloppstock.

This is a computer not *The Hadron Collider*

Like I said earlier in the thread:

"Keep running that thang until it starts screamin' "Momma" ! and finally bites the dust.

2 years later when it probably hasn't happened write in to this forum again and update us.

We like to keep our finger on the pulse."

I also said: "Just backup everything that you've got on the "Hot" hardrive."

C'mon Chopstick, backtrack a bit, read stuff that's already been written, and get your ducks in a row. :)

You didn't read what was said and have written in 2 years prematurely. :P

John.

[bludgard]

do you still think im playing with death here?

Nah ! Calm down Chopstick Kloppstock.

This is a computer not *The Hadron Collider*

Like I said earlier in the thread:

"Keep running that thang until it starts screamin' "Momma" ! and finally bites the dust.

2 years later when it probably hasn't happened write in to this forum again and update us.

We like to keep our finger on the pulse."

I also said: "Just backup everything that you've got on the "Hot" hardrive."

C'mon Chopstick, backtrack a bit, read stuff that's already been written, and get your ducks in a row. :)

You didn't read what was said and have written in 2 years prematurely. :P

John.

Nice.

Made my day....

[Kloppstock]

do you still think im playing with death here?

Nah ! Calm down Chopstick Kloppstock.

This is a computer not *The Hadron Collider*

Like I said earlier in the thread:

"Keep running that thang until it starts screamin' "Momma" ! and finally bites the dust.

2 years later when it probably hasn't happened write in to this forum again and update us.

We like to keep our finger on the pulse."

I also said: "Just backup everything that you've got on the "Hot" hardrive."

C'mon Chopstick, backtrack a bit, read stuff that's already been written, and get your ducks in a row. :)

You didn't read what was said and have written in 2 years prematurely. :P

John.

I actually have read it all sire, i just needed to hear more opinions from different people, that may possible even go deeper into the "technical-mumbo jumbo" that interpret it to

the situation i have described, cause my pattern for this disc can just as well suggest that my type of heating are not damageable to this Pentagon? HD of mine

Why is this so important for me? to obvious stay away from just backuping the whole shit like decent people..and then feel safe and sound about heat issues

I don't know how to backup a HD in a compressed way..cause that is what i wanna! cause i don't feel such great lust to copy and paste the whole content into one of my other hard drives

i have a USB memory from Starcraft 1 following in the Starcraft 2 package!!! on 2 Gb that i could off course erase, i dont think any USB can take in so much more than that?

And i don't wanna waste money on a portable hard drive just like that, it probably just have enough space to backup this dangerous drive probably and not my other 3

this dangerous drive is on 232 Gb...

and with my luck this hard drive will off course never crash to prof

to me that i did the right thing by investing a portable HD backup! :)

The best would be if there are some programs that could backup and entire hard drive and compress it into something...?

[MANEMAN]

The best would be if there are some programs that could backup and entire hard drive and compress it into something...?

Hmmmm....... You dont get out a lot do ya ? :)

/>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html - You have to pay.

/>http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp - You dont have to pay.

John.