moon Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Yeah, yeah, I'm a little old lady. Nevertheless, two questions for the experts.I've installed the cpu and heatsink ( bit of a chair gripper, that heatsink clip :blink:) and I had expected the four rubber feet on the core to disappear to nothing. They dont, do they. I can still see them and I'm wondering if the heatsink has a good contact ?I've put the mobo in its tray and, although I'm fairly sure that the area around the screw holes is insulated, I just wanted to check that insulating washers were not required. :) Back to me knitting while I wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 The feet don't normally disappear - not on the ones I've built anyway. Did you make sure that you used either heatsink compound OR the pad provided in the heatsink itself and if you used the pad that you removed the backing paper? N.B. You MUST NOT use both.If the contact is not what it should be, the CPU will quickly heat up and shut itself down but obviously it's best that it doesn't need to do that.It is normal that any motherboard tracks that are likely to come in contact with mounting screws are earth tracks so there shouldn't be a problem. On some (all?) boards there is a deliberate track to one of the mounting holes to ensure an earth contact and reduce electrical noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 The boxed cpu that I got had the plastic 'lid' over the thermal contact- no tape to remove. It seems from the manual that you get one or the other. ( I think :blink: :D )I guess the linking track must be on the underside. Too late to check that now but I did use all nine holes so if it's there, I've used it. Ta. :) Why ain't you at work earning someone's dole money ? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Why ain't you at work earning someone's dole money ? :DPeople of my vintage and disability don't normally go out to work.I've worked from home since 1996. I'm arthritic and following two humdinger heart attacks (after several "silent" ones) in 1999, my mobility is severely limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Sorry to hear that, man. I hope you don't keel over as a result of my stupid questions. B) There's a split and twist in my Floppy drive ribbon cable. Does that go to the drive end or the mobo end ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Twist normally goes to the FD end. It is important as well to insert the plug right way round - the red tracer normally goes to pin one - that is the pin furthest away from the power connectors. Watch out at the M/B end as well. Pin one should be marked on the board. Nothing drastic happens if you get it wrong except the drive doesn't work and the light is always on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Ta -pops-. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Floppy's in. The CD-RW ribbon cable has a black end and a red end, otherwise identical ends. Any orientation involved here ? ( Why they don't write it on the cables is beyond me ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Odd!!!!!EIDE cables such as are used for HDD and optical drives are normally blue at the M/B end and black at the master drive end. If there is a mid-cable connector it is usually grey and is for the slave device..Did this cable come with the M/B? If yes, it should tell you in the manual which way round this strange cable colour coding means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Yes, it came with the mobo. The mid-way slave connector is black and the miniscule installation pic. shows a black end in the drive so I'll go with that and put the red end in the mobo. The IDE channels on the mobo are coloured;1= green2=white3 and 4 = green ( No red one :D )As I'm not using an IDE hard drive I could put the (red) CD-RW connector into 1 or I could put it into 2 with a view to adding an IDE hard drive later. I'm actually installing 2 SATA hard drives and they've got their own channels. IDE 3 and 4 are for IDE RAID. Waddy think , in 1 or 2 ?EDIT; I've moved the CD-RW jumpers to 'master'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Forgot you were doing SATA - about which I know zilch.I would think that as long as you have your BIOS set to recognise your optial drives wherever you put them, it would be OK. My natural inclination though would be to still put my "C" drive at IDE 0 even though I have a SATA system. I'm probably wrong on this but I'm not sure how the M/B will behave with nothing in IDE 0 or if it finds an optical drive there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 My SATA drives have dedicated SATA connections on the mobo. The only IDE device I have is the CD-RW and I've got the four IDE channels , 1 to 4 ( no 0)You think I should put the CD-RW in 1 ?My two SATA drives will be 'mirrored' so they should be read as one drive and designated 'C' automatically. I hope. :blink: :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 The "0" IDE is what you term "1", I think.I'm out of my depth with SATA, I'm afraid so theonly thing I can suggest is try it out.Good luck with it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Not got it bolted together yet? Been on a jolly the last week have you. :lol: Don't know how to put multiple images on so I will post a few and hope they may help.First is for the floppy cable and it shows pin 1 on the board. Have the cut \ twisted end into the floppy drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 This will show pin 1 on the motherboard ide connector. IDE 1 is the same as IDE 0. You have IDE 1 + 2, normal ATA and IDE 3 + 4 which is raid ATA.The IDE cable will have a connector in the middle, the end with the longest section of cable between the middle will go to the motherboard. Unless as pops says it is colour coded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Your SATA connectors are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 To boot from SATA you will have to enter the advance bios option. If the option is not there then press Ctrl + F1.This is the section you want to enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 This relates to the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Also make sure it is set to enabled.This may help the installation of the drives.get ya finger out and bung em in. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 This will show pin 1 on the motherboard ide connector. IDE 1 is the same as IDE 0. You have IDE 1 + 2, normal ATA and IDE 3 + 4 which is raid ATA.The IDE cable will have a connector in the middle, the end with the longest section of cable between the middle will go to the motherboard. Unless as pops says it is colour coded.Check. Everything is installed. I've just got to make all the power connections. I put the CD-RW in 1 ( 0 )Does it matter which power connectors I use, the ends or the branches ? EDIT; No jollies this week, too much work. Today's my day off and I've spent all of it assembling. Luckily for me -pops- was at home. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyhanger Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Does it matter which power connectors I use, the ends or the branches ?No it does not matter Moon, use either. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grim Reaper Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I put the CD-RW in 1Â ( 0 )i would still put that in 2 (1), you may want to add an ide hdd at some point!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Righto, I'm nearly there. I've got the Clk_Ratio set to 'Auto' = all 'Off' Correct ?I've got the Clk_Sw set to 'Auto' ='On' Correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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