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  1. A couple of weeks ago I installed Windows 8 (fresh install from scratch, not an update) on my computer. I do a lot of web browsing and over the last couple of weeks I've been using Windows 8, I could swear the web browsing wasn't as fast at it used to be on Windows 7. I then noticed I was having major issues bringing up my router's control panel (ASUS RT-N56U) so thinking it was my router I upgraded the firmware. Turned out, the Avast Anti-Virus I was running has issues with Windows 8. I removed AVAST and turned on Windows Defender (which in Windows 8 is also an anti-virus program now referred to MSE - Miscrosoft Security Essentials). MSE has gotten fairly good reviews so I decided to use it, for maximum compatibility with Windows 8. However, although the router control panel would now come up okay, browsing still seemed to not be quite as fast as it used to be. I sat down at the old 5-year old Dell Desktop next to me that is running Windows 7, both computers were connected to the router via Gigabit Ethernet. I tested network speeds with Speedtest.net to make sure they were both getting the same Internet speeds (which they were.) I found a couple 'heavy' web pages to test: www.epicurious.com (home page) sports.yahoo.com (home page) The browsing was MUCH faster on the Windows 7 machine!! So I decided to do more of a controlled test. The Samsung Notebook is a Series 6 Core i5 with 6GB RAM and 64GB SSD running Win 8 Pro 64-bit. Windows Experience score of 5.9. Windows Defender (MSE) Anti-Virus. Windows Firewall Turned OFF! The Dell Desktop is Intel Q8200 with 6GB RAM and a 5400RPM HD running Win 7 32-bit (not sure why 64-bit didn't install, sort of strange but oh well). It had a Windows Experience score of 3.6. Avast Anti-Virus. Windows Firewall turned OFF. Windows Defender turned OFF. I went into Windows Task Manager on both computers and ended most if not all tasks that were not critical to the system and no other programs except the browsers were running. I removed all plug-ins and add-ons from Chrome except the Page Load Time extension plug-in which can be downloaded here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/page-load-time/fploionmjgeclbkemipmkogoaohcdbig I also tested on FireFox using this add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/apptelemetry/?src=search On the Windows 8 Machine I also tested with Internet Explorer 10 - unfortunately I couldn't find a page load speed monitor for it that would work so I could only do an informal visual+verbal count, stopping when I saw the page stop X in the URL bar change to the reload symbol indicating the page had completed loading. On both test pages I refreshed the pages at least 10 times and averaged the scores. I looked at the page load speed monitor result but I also did a visual+verbal count out loud until I saw the page stopped loading objects. The results were astounding (and very frustrating/disappointing because otherwise I really like Windows 8 as the OS in general seems better/faster than Windows 7 for multitasking) Here's the results: Windows 8 + Fast Machine + Chrome 23.0.1271.95 m on epicurious.com: ~ 3.5 sec load counter / ~ 5.5 sec visual/verbal count Windows 7 + Slow Machine + Chrome 23.0.1271.95 m on epicurious.com: ~ 2 sec avg / ~ 3.5 sec avg visual/verbal count Windows 8 Fast machine + Chrome on sports.yahoo.com: 5 sec avg / 5 sec avg Windows 7 Slow machine + Chrome on sports.yahoo.com: 2.5 sec / 3 sec Windows 8 Fast machine + FireFox on epicurious com: 4.5 sec / 4.5 sec Windows 7 Slow machine + Firefox on epicurious.com: 2.5 sec / 3 sec Windows 8 Fast machine + FireFox on sports.yahoo com: 5.25 sec / 5 sec Windows 7 Slow machine + Firefox on sports.yahoo.com: 2.5 sec / 3 sec Windows 8 Fast machine + Internet Explorer 10 on epicurious.com: ~ 5 sec visual/verbal count Windows 8 Fast machine + Internet Explorer 10 on sports.yahoo.com: ~ 6 sec visual/verbal count (I didn't bother testing IE 10 on the Win 7 machine) It is clear, that something in Windows 8 is causing the browsers to load web pages 30-50% slower. If you have a very fast Internet connection (like me - 35 mbit/s download and 6 mbit/s upload) in regular use, the difference may not be that noticeable to the "casual user" as the difference between as a 3 sec and a 5 sec page load speed are both fairly fast for these two sites. But it you have many sites open at once and are multi-tasking and clicking lots of links hours at a time, it IS noticeable. Downright depressing when you compare it to a Windows 7 machine especially considering the specs on the Win 8 machine are much better hardware wise! If anything the Windows 8 machines should be faster. Now I know a some people are going to be skeptical about my findings or give suggestions as to something that may be wrong with my particular PC. Obviously every PC is different, having different configurations, apps loaded, processes running, etc. But in my 25+ years in the Tech Industry my gut is telling me there's something not right with Windows 8 and it is just a matter of time until enough people complain to Microsoft about it to get their attention to find the cause of the issue and fix it. HERE'S A COUPLE IMPORTANT POINTS WHY MY GUT IS TELLING ME IT IS A WINDOWS 8 ISSUE: * I tried the tests on Windows 8 with Windows Defender (MSE) turned OFF, Firewall turned OFF. No anti-virus programs running. IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE. ** I made sure the drivers for both my Ethernet and Wi-Fi Networking were the latest drivers. They are the on-board Intel 82579M Gigabit Ethernet and Centrino 6230 Wireless. *** Running the tests on Wifi instead of Ethernet ALSO MADE NO DIFFERENCE. The facts seem to point to something in the Windows 8 Operating System is slowing things down. I wish I knew what it was as I feel so frustrated that this new powerful Samsung Core i5 notebook running Windows 8 has slower web browsing than than 5-year old Windows 7 Dell Desktop sitting across from me. I have seen many other posts about Chrome running slowly on Windows 8. It isn't just Chrome! *** I would encourage others to run these tests as I would at least like to be 99% confident that I don't have some hardware or driver issue. *** Other's having same issues: />https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/chrome/KV_TPd6Ehdg />http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-networking/internet-hangs-unavailable-slow-since-upgrading-to/3406a398-eb16-40aa-b9ee-9ce5ea95f406 />http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2006876 />http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/941163
  2. A week or so ago, I downloaded and installed the Win 8 Customer Review software. Since then I have had a lot of trouble witn "Invalid Password" situations. I have traced this problem to the fact that when I am in either Internet Explorer or Firefox, the OS-Keyboard interface never recognizes the entry of characters (Numerals or Special Symbols) on the upper tier keys. I't DOES, however, recognize numerals entered from the KeyPad at the right. Of course, the KeyPad does not have the special characters such as "@" and such. This lack of recognition is what had resulted in the failure of many of my LogIn attempts. I have tested the keyboard (USB) on two other computers and it works fine and without error on them. I can also use the keyboard normally while in any email handler program (normally Thunderbird). I don't know that Win 8 is the cause of the problem, I did not have this problem before changing over. I have tried to go back to Win 7, but the installer tells me that I cannot go back from W8 to W7???? Anyone got a solution to my problem (other than applying at the local Mental Institution?
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