Rebel=UK= Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 i have Microsoft Java installed, but firefox doesnt pick that up and it says i need to install Java sun (i think its rubbish)...now what i want to know is if i install java sun will it default as my main java on IE aswell?I dont want to use IE because of the major security prob @ the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 and how do u get the voice active on yahoo chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 no my understanding is that IE will always default to the MS version unless you uninstall it or disable it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Crabtree Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 and how do u get the voice active on yahoo chatOpen up a chat dialogue with someone and click on the microphone labelled "Voice"...Works for me!*EDIT* Above advice is for yahoo messenger.For Yahoo chat it's the "Talk" button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I've always though of Sun Java as being far superior. Odd that it's given you problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhat Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I've always though of Sun Java as being far superior. Odd that it's given you problems.Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I've always though of Sun Java as being far superior. Odd that it's given you problems.it is soooo slow its almost laughable it really is.Anyhow this is what im talking about, is no talk button @ all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Crabtree Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 The fact that you don't have the chat bit must be connected with not having the correct java plugin for Mozilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 aye i usally have nah bother with it on IE, but because all the security prob i though id set this firefox up the way i like it and just use this. ...i think its this rubbish java sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Sun java is far from rubbish. In fact the MS version is so hacked, distorted, and strayed so far from java standards that it isn't compatible with many java applications and websites. MS so destroyed the java standard that Sun sued, and rather then loose Microsoft paid them a whopping 2 BILLION dollars and the courts stopped MS from distributing the broken version because it was a violation of contracts they had with Sun.If you want true cross platform, standards based compatibility that works with "java standards" then Sun is the answer. If you want a version that hasn't been changed since 1997 and was never compliant with standards then get the inferior MS garbage.You prove the point yourself very well when you say the MS garbage won't work with FireFox, it won't work with any other browser either. It is horribly broken and should be buried in a deep dark hole somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 well i find it Very slow, you try going on yahoo chat and see, and if its not working , ms is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirley Crabtree Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Sun java is far from rubbish. In fact the MS version is so hacked, distorted, and strayed so far from java standards that it isn't compatible with many java applications and websites. MS so destroyed the java standard that Sun sued, and rather then loose Microsoft paid them a whopping 2 BILLION dollars and the courts stopped MS from distributing the broken version because it was a violation of contracts they had with Sun.If you want true cross platform, standards based compatibility that works with "java standards" then Sun is the answer. If you want a version that hasn't been changed since 1997 and was never compliant with standards then get the inferior MS garbage.You prove the point yourself very well when you say the MS garbage won't work with FireFox, it won't work with any other browser either. It is horribly broken and should be buried in a deep dark hole somewhere.I use the MS inferior garbage VM and I have had no problems whatsoever.My brief dalliances with the Sun "Coffee cup" software gave me nothing but trouble last year...Java apps just not running at all...or slow Java apps...Or Java apps crashing.Bruce...You really seem to have no experience of Java apps!I have MS VM on my webspace permanently...Just for ppl looking for the BEST,most compatible Java software....Ppl who are sick of Sun Java crashing or just playing up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I uninistalled MSVM a while ago and only have sun on my machine now. I have had no problems with Yahoo chat or anything else for that matter!I followed the directions on the sun site and not only installed Sun but stopped VM from running and took it off my PC.I suppose in the end it is a question of personal preference. What works best for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I use the MS inferior garbage VM and I have had no problems whatsoever.My brief dalliances with the Sun "Coffee cup" software gave me nothing but trouble last year...Java apps just not running at all...or slow Java apps...Or Java apps crashing.Bruce...You really seem to have no experience of Java apps!I have MS VM on my webspace permanently...Just for ppl looking for the BEST,most compatible Java software....Ppl who are sick of Sun Java crashing or just playing up!!I have quite a bit of experience with java apps. I could send you several that would choke MS java.You really shouldn't blame Sun for Microsoft Windows problems and ill running PC. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Java is a plug-in type download. Mainly when you download it, your downloading it specifically for your browser, unless you go to the website and download the actual installer that may or may not have support for your browser.Same idea as Flash, and other languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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