xakep Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 In the Remove Program utility I see a lot of SP1, SP2 and generic Hot Fixes that appear as if they are useless and can be removed. Can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 No - these are the Windows security fixes and should not be uninstalled. You are essentially "undoing" Windows Updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 But you can uncheck the "Show updates" option on top; then you won't see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakep Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 In the Windows folder there are a hundreds if not thousands of these:$NtUninstallQ317277$Can they be deleted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Be careful NOT to remove anything that you are either 1) unsure about or 2) is not causing you any problems. You can do much mischief to your system by removing seemingly innocuous items which, to you , don't appear to have any function but are, in fact, vital to the smooth operation of your system..Until you have more experience in the operation of computers, rather than spending your time poking around in your computer O/S innards, why not use your it for something more constructive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I would advise against removing those, as they are references to the updates as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 There are of course a number of those that are actually outdated, e.g. superseded by a Service Pack. But I wouldn't go through the trouble of finding and eliminating them -- it's really not much space that is lost there.Installing and regularly running CCleaner probably safes a lot more space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 As pops has said, I have in the past done a lot of harm by too much poking around. Before I learnt how to format and reinstall Windows, I used to pay to have this done on a regular basis, probably every couple of months or so. Messing about can be quite costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakep Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 OK. Thank you for the warnings.Think about this, however - these 2100 some Uninstall folders on my PC occupy just over 300mb. I noticed them when running Defrag and antivirus - the applications slow down while on these and the system monitor shows a 100% CPU usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 That's because the data stored therein is encrypted and very complex. Not to mention, you probably have beuristic scanning turned on in your AV client (good idea). Again, I'd disregard them and not, repeat not delete them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Assuming you have a fairly modern machine, 300MB is just a tiny part of its total capacity so, don't worry too much about it wasting space. My holiday pics take up more room than that. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 You will find that even though the CPU usage shows 100%, you can open and run other programs as well, the usage appears to share itself out, at least that's how it appears to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakep Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I know that 5 minutes of the CPU speedometer being over 100% AND my 3-stage CPU fan sounding like a jet means a shutdown is 1-2 minutes away. Gaging the CPU use I've been able to keep tasks and processes as slim as possible, and has kept things running literally cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I know that 5 minutes of the CPU speedometer being over 100% AND my 3-stage CPU fan sounding like a jet means a shutdown is 1-2 minutes away. Gaging the CPU use I've been able to keep tasks and processes as slim as possible, and has kept things running literally cool.Then your computer has a cooling problem, and your 3-stage fan is probably pretty dusty...Have you lately cleaned the system out with a can of air duster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Once again, I fully agree with scuzzman. If your machine is only able to cope with CPU usage at 100% for 1-2 minutes, then there is something seriously wrong with your cooling system.On one of my machines, I have the CPU at 95 - 100% for hours at a time while it is rendering video. Yes, it gets quite warm but nothing that is out of the working specification for the processor. Another point is that I cannot tolerate excessive noise so, all the time the machine is working so hard, it is making almost no sound. It is fitted with a Zalman flower CPU cooler with one 120mm fan each at the back and front of the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Once again, I fully agree with scuzzman. If your machine is only able to cope with CPU usage at 100% for 1-2 minutes, then there is something seriously wrong with your cooling system.On one of my machines, I have the CPU at 95 - 100% for hours at a time while it is rendering video. Yes, it gets quite warm but nothing that is out of the working specification for the processor. Another point is that I cannot tolerate excessive noise so, all the time the machine is working so hard, it is making almost no sound. It is fitted with a Zalman flower CPU cooler with one 120mm fan each at the back and front of the case.When I was part of the Windows Forum Folding Team, my CPU operated at 100% for several days non stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 As do all of mine when running seti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakep Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I have a laptop, which is nearly impossible to disassemble and vacuum. Maybe take a vacuum cleaner hose and put it right next to the fan exhausts? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Didn't appreciate it was a laptop.I suggest that you have it cleaned, or at least looked at by a professional because it certainly shouldn't get as hot as it seems to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt James T. Kirk Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 i have read that sometimes when a laptop is sittin on a table or something like that just make sure theres airflow underneath the laptop. and i also seen a little unit that you place the laptop on that has little fans that blow up to cool the underside for better cooling. all this may not have anything to do with the discussion but i thought i'd throw it out there anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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