LADYDEB Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 :( Hi there,Its been 3 months since I first tried to network my pc's, using a wireless Belkin router, then my current Linksy wired router. I am sick and tired of trying to figure it out. I've tried using the 3 part plan, kindly offered by homecomputeraid. Unfortunately, some of the tabs suggested to click, simply weren't even on my computer. Therefore, no way hombre. I AM ABOUT TO GIVE UP. I know its a bit melodramatic, but are these technologies put here simply to totally frustrate, annoy, irritate and confound me?? I think so. I am feeling very sorry for my networkingless self.Signing out and feeling very embarassed about my uselessness.LADYDEB :blush: :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 sorry, I deleted my post, was misled by the mention W 3.1 under your nickname.Shouldn't be too hard to get this up and running.Please let us know at what stage you are stuck?Can you get communication working between one of your PC's and the router? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homecomputeraid Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Hi LadyDEB,I hope we can help you get it running with out too much more frustration. What Operating Systems are on the 2 PC's? Windows 98, Me, 2000, or XP?Are they both trying to connect using wireless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Also - your internet connection type would be very useful information - ie: cable or dsl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 :blink: Ok, here goes. I have two pc's running windows xp home edition version 2002 with service pack 2. The router is a Linksy cable dsl router Model no BEFSR41-UK. The current broadband modem is a Motorolla Surfboard SB5100, running on a USB connection. I have Blueyonder broadband. I currently have Norton internet security professional.I followed the cd rom supplied with the Linksy router and the Windows Network wizard, but neither ultimately completed the set up. I managed to get the computers to recognise each other (I think!), but cannot establish an internet connection. Also, when the router is connected to both computers, neither computer will go on-line. Very strange!!I don't actually know which stage I am at with this whole thing, because, to be honest I am lost!!A starting from scratch and going through the whole ABC's are probably gonna be my only hope. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Ladydeb, I have BlueYonder BB and 2 pc's networked via a hub.....networking was simplicity itself.....XP did all the work to be honest.In my opinion it's your Norton firewall causing a problem, try turning it off.There's nothing Norton on any of my machines, and there never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 OK - Networking basics:1) Both computers require a Network Interface Card (ethernet card) - If you haven't got this, visit your local computer store and pick up an NIC for about $10 USD, and install it (very simple)2) Run an ethernet cable from the cable modem, to the "Internet" or "WAN" port on the router3) Run ethernet from port "1" on the router to your computer's NIC, and the same with port "2" on the router and the second computerThis should solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Hi there,I tried the cable connection suggestions that were made and I can now access the internet with the main computer. However, I still can't go on-line with the second computer.I clicked 'VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS' and was given this message:MS HOME IS NOT ACCESSIBLE. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE PERMISSIONS TO USE THIS NETWORK RESOURCE. CONTACT THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS SERVER TO FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE ACCESS PERMISSIONS. THE LIST OF SERVERS FOR THIS WORKGROUP IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.However, on the second computer, when I click the same tab, it shows the second computer as part of a workgroup, but not the main computer.Anyone figure this out???Any help greatly appreciated, cos I feel as if I have shuffled a step closer to the solution and it feels GOOOODD!!!!LADYDEBP.S. I tried turning off Norton firewall, but it seemed to make no difference?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Well, let's first get that computer online, then we'll deal with the filesharing issue.You say you have a linksys router?Follow this and post the information:Go to Start->Run adn type this incmdYou'll come to a command prompt, type this:ipconfig /all > C:\netinfo.txtPress "Enter", then type this:ping 192.168.1.1 >> C:\netinfo.txtMake sure to have 2 ">"'s on the second commandNow, type thisnotepad C:\netinfo.txtCopy and paste that info here please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>ipconfig/all>C:\netinfo.txtC:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>ping192.168.1.1>>C:\netinfo.txt'ping192.168.1.1' is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file.C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>notepadC:\netinfo.txtThe filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>ipconfig/all>C:\netinfo.txtC:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>ping192.168.1.1>>C:\netinfo.txt'ping192.168.1.1' is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file.C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>notepadC:\netinfo.txtThe filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.C:\Documents and Settings\BRIAN JACKSON>Kind of, except nothing got spaced...There's spaces between everything..ping192.168.1.1 >> C:\netinfo.txtetc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 If you just highlight (mouse) everything I have in the CODE boxes and COPY it, when you Right-click in the command window, it will PASTE it. Then just press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JACKSON Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-DC-E2-A8-72 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5100 USB Cable Modem Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-5C-ED-D0-63 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.38.96.57 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 82.38.96.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.240.178 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.31.144.39 195.188.53.175 62.31.112.39 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 10 February 2005 18:55:20 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 11 February 2005 07:15:28Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Found our problem :DFollow this list:Go to Start->Control PanelChoose "Network and Internet Connections" - You may just see Network Connections, if so, Click thatIf you did see "Network and Internet Connections", now choose "Network Connections" under "Or choose a control Panel Icon"Find "Local Area Connection" and right-click itSelect "Properties"Highlight, but do not uncheck "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click the "Properties" button just underneathYou'll then see a series of options, place the "dot" in these 2: - Obtain an IP Address automatically - Obtain a DNS server address automaticallyThat should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Hi there SCUZZMANI followed all the instructions you gave, but still, things just aren't happening. I tried 'view workgroups'again, but the same applies as before. No workgroup computer on main computer and only the 2nd computer showing up on the 2nd computer.I'M SO FRUSTRATED!! And you have been very patient with me.Many thanks for all you've done so far!LADYDEBp.s. Is it possible that the two computers aren't actually in the same workgroup?? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 We'll work on the networking issue in a few... right now, let's get that computer online (the issues most likely aren't related. Now that we have the computer set up for DHCP - let's do this once more:Well, let's first get that computer online, then we'll deal with the filesharing issue.You say you have a linksys router?Follow this and post the information:Go to Start->Run adn type this incmdYou'll come to a command prompt, type this:ipconfig /all > C:\netinfo.txtPress "Enter", then type this:ping 192.168.1.1 >> C:\netinfo.txtMake sure to have 2 ">"'s on the second commandNow, type thisnotepad C:\netinfo.txtCopy and paste that info here please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Been a couple of days, everything going OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hi Scuzzman,Despite your valiant attempts to help. I am still networkless.Don't know what happened but I couldn't get on-line after the last attempts to configure the network. I have had to unplug the router altogether to get back on-line. Its dawned on me that when you use the set up wizard on the main computer, it invites you to make a set-up floppy disk in order to configure the second computer. However, the second computer doesn't have a floppy drive. Is this process only necessary when both computer do NOT have Windows XP as the running system??I don't know. I was soooo full of hope that I could sort this out. :( Could the router be faulty?? :huh: Regards and many thanksLADYDEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hi Scuzzman,Despite your valiant attempts to help. I am still networkless.Don't know what happened but I couldn't get on-line after the last attempts to configure the network. I have had to unplug the router altogether to get back on-line. Its dawned on me that when you use the set up wizard on the main computer, it invites you to make a set-up floppy disk in order to configure the second computer. However, the second computer doesn't have a floppy drive. Is this process only necessary when both computer do NOT have Windows XP as the running system??I don't know. I was soooo full of hope that I could sort this out. :( Could the router be faulty?? :huh: Regards and many thanksLADYDEBProbably its not the router... just a few botched settings.So we can verify a few things, please do this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JACKSON Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-DC-E2-A8-72Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5100 USB Cable Modem Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-5C-ED-D0-63 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.38.96.57 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 82.38.96.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.240.178 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.31.144.39 195.188.53.175 62.31.112.39 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 13 February 2005 18:38:53 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 February 2005 13:07:54Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Reply from 172.18.16.34: TTL expired in transit.Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Ok, this information indicates that the modem is directly connected to the computer via a USB cable. If that's so, then of course you're not networked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Hi SCUZZMAN,When the broadband modem was installed by Blueyonder, I believe they did connect using a usb cable. As I REALLY don't know what I'm talking about, I had no clue that this could be a problem. How do I change the need for the usb cable? Can I alter this somehow and make the set up work?? :blush: I am, to all intents and (computer) purposes, clueless.My limited dabbling has given me a fragmented knowledge, but this networking thing eludes me. Does the broadband have to be reconfigured by Blueyonder? Or is it just a case of changing a cable?Your input is greatly appreciated SCUZZMAN. :D LADYDEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Well, typically it's just changing a cable.Take a look at the back of the modem, and tell me if there is what appears to be an oversized phone jack. If so, great. If not, Blueyonder needs to send you an "ethernet capable modem".Now look at the back of your computer. Tell me if there is a jack the exact same size. Don't confuse this with a dial-up modem - it will not be in a pair. If there's not, we need to install an ethernet card. If so, we're in good shape. I'll post more when you respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYDEB Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Hi,Yes there is a ethernet jack on the computer and the modem. I have the ethernet cable running from the broadband modem to the router then from the router to computer 1 and 2. If I unplug the usb will this help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Yes, remove the USB cable, restart your PC, and please run those tests again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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