humbletech99 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I am trialing drive encryption (TrueCrypt) and have created an encrypted D drive. I set my paging file to exist on the D drive so it is also encrypted and therefore safe and done the same with the temp directories.The problem is the screen goes all funny at boot time (splits into 4 sqiggly screens) and then comes up. It was unable to create the pagefile as there is not yet a d drive. You have to use truecrypt to make the d drive by putting in the password, which makes sense since that's what keeps the data safe.The temp directories are used after the d drive becomes available but the pagefile.sys is not created or used that I can tell. This is a problem because either it means I have to keep the pagefile on the unencrypted C drive which is a security risk or I have to do without a pagefile entirely.Has anybody come across this issue and got any ideas for dealing with it? Perhaps you use some other drive encryption software which you think is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I can't answer your query but I would ask if you have a good reason for encrypting your files?I was caught out once by an encryption system which forgot its own password. No, it wasn't me that forgot it, the software did. The suppliers of the software didn't deny that their product had done this so I can only assume that it has happened to others.Somewhere there is still a hard drive containing my encrypted files, never to be seen again. Fortunately, I was only trialling the software so there was nothing important locked away but I write this as a warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Let me see if I understand correctly."The problem is the screen goes all funny at boot time (splits into 4 sqiggly screens) and then comes up. It was unable to create the pagefile as there is not yet a d drive. You have to use truecrypt to make the d drive by putting in the password, which makes sense since that's what keeps the data safe."So, on boot up, you see sqiggly screens, and then the computer continues to boot. Or does it give an error about creating a D drive?I am also confused as to why you are putting your paging file on the D drive, and why it needs to be encrypted.-----I also found this on TrueCrypts website - http://www.truecrypt.org/third-party-projects/tctemp/Caution: Moving the paging file to the TCTEMP volume is still experimental. It is known for the current TCTEMP version that a STOP error (blue screen) can occur during Windows shutdown after the paging file has been moved to the TCTEMP volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbletech99 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 no error is mentioned, it just fails to create the paging file since the D drive isn't mounted and it never creates/uses it after that.The machines boots fine, just without a paging file.D drive needs to be encrypted to protect a client's data (they requested it). The paging file needs to be encrypted/disabled so that you can't steal ram swapped data from it by putting the hard disk in another machine and doing a recovery of the data buried in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozofdeath Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Are you using TrueCrypt v4.2a? If so are you using tctemp with it or did you use the "system" mount option? If TrueCrypt or tctemp is not the most current version or you did not enable the system mount option it will not create a swap or in tctemps case just an error in older xp ran versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 no error is mentioned, it just fails to create the paging file since the D drive isn't mounted and it never creates/uses it after that.The machines boots fine, just without a paging file.D drive needs to be encrypted to protect a client's data (they requested it). The paging file needs to be encrypted/disabled so that you can't steal ram swapped data from it by putting the hard disk in another machine and doing a recovery of the data buried in it.In that case, I suggest encrypting the D drive as normal, move the page file back to the default location and use TCTemp to encrypt the page file. You should put the page file back to it's default location to avoid problems like the one you mention above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbletech99 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 encrypt the c drive? using Truecrypt? Are you trying to get me to destroy my server or are you just not sure what you're talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Oops. I didnt mean to say C itself. I meant, move the pagefile to C and encrypt it. I was unsure if it would work with your current setup as you say the page file cannot be created.Thanks for catching my mistake and not going ahead with that. I've corrected my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozofdeath Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Remember you can also just disable swap on xp machines in your virtual memory settings. Have you moved your swap file to the encrypted volume through xps virtual memory settings to encrypt it? Also you might as well do away with tctemp because its built in as of 4.2a. Why mess with another program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I am under the impression that a swap file cannot be created on an encrypted drive (I may be wrong) which is why I suggest moving it back to C, and then using tctemp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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