CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 For years now, I've been ending frozen or stubborn applications through the processes tab of the Task Manager, it being much quicker, "end task" sometimes taking a minute to register. Well two days ago, I was ending an ISO converter program through the processes tab, and my butterfingers self slipped and clicked "end process TREE" instead of "end process," and as you can guess by now, it did just that. My computer froze completely. After shutting it off and then starting it up again, it took over 3 minutes to just load the login screen to windows, then another 4 to load off of the desktop (Not that the processor was being overworked, it just felt like taking its sweet time.) And then I notice that many thing no longer work. I barely brought back my toolbar, each window taking a long time to load, and then checked in the task manager to see what was up, only to see that I had a total of only 29 processes running ou of my usual 55ish. Apparently, that "End processes Tree" did a real number on my computer, and shut off many things like my sound, Internet setup, and I can't even get into many of the settings and tools such as system restore in my control panel, system restore, for example, which just refuses to load. So I'm writing this from my old computer, hoping one of you could help me figure out how to fix my precious new computer without reformatting it (again- Things have happened in the near past too...) Also sorry for making this so long, but I figured, the more you know, the better the chance my XPS 410 will live again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 To get to System Restore :-Log on with admin rightsType at command prompt %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exeand then ENTERThen restore back to before everything went awry :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 You can also access Control Panel applets by :-Clicking the Start buttonThen click Run. Type in the command (as below) and press Enter/click OK to launch it. List of commands you can use, and what they do:-control folders - Folder Optionscontrol userpasswords - User Accountscontrol userpasswords2 - Advanced User Accountscontrol desktop - Display Propertiescontrol printers - Printers and Faxescontrol mouse - Mouse Propertiescontrol keyboard - Keyboard Propertiescontrol netconnections - Network Connectionscontrol color - Display Properties \ Screensavercontrol date/time - Date and Time Propertiescontrol schedtasks - Scheduled Taskscontrol admintools - Administrative Toolscontrol telephony - Phone and Modem Optionscontrol fonts - Fonts Foldercontrol international - Regional and Language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 To get to System Restore :-Log on with admin rightsType at command prompt %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exeand then ENTERThen restore back to before everything went awry :)When i try this, the same thing happens as when i click it in the control panel, although in the Task Manager processes it shows up, "rstrui.exe," absolutely nothing else happens. I'm afraid one of the ended processes windows runs by was used by system restore, which is a little paradoxical, if you were to ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Make sure that the System Restore service is running by using one of the following methods:- Check in Control Panel:1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and Maintenance".2. Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, and then click Services and Applications.3. Click Services, and then click System Restore Services.Should look like screenshot below :-Or - Open a command prompt window:1. Click Start, click Run, and then type "CMD" (without the quotation marks).2. Press the ENTER key, and then type "Net Start" (without the quotation marks) at the command prompt to make sure that the System Restore service is up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Make sure that the System Restore service is running by using one of the following methods:- Check in Control Panel:1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and Maintenance".2. Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, and then click Services and Applications.3. Click Services, and then click System Restore Services.Should look like screenshot below :-Or - Open a command prompt window:1. Click Start, click Run, and then type "CMD" (without the quotation marks).2. Press the ENTER key, and then type "Net Start" (without the quotation marks) at the command prompt to make sure that the System Restore service is up and running.For the second method, which i tried first, in the Command Prompt, this was the response:These Windows services are started:The command completed successfully.Looks like I don't have any windows services up at all. For the first method, under "Services" there is also not a thing there, completely blank. If even that was killed, does it seem I will have to reformat the computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I can't believe that there are no services running ? :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 If you Control Alt DeleteHow many/what processes show there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 If you Control Alt DeleteHow many/what processes show there ?Twenty-four, after i turn off google talk and such. I guess it's so bad, it's undheard of, eh =)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Try :-StartRunservices.mscOKDoes any service have a status of "Started" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 If you Control Alt DeleteHow many/what processes show there ?Twenty-four, after i turn off google talk and such. I guess it's so bad, it's undheard of, eh =)?Do any of them have a User Name of LOCAL SERVICE or NETWORK SERVICE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Try :-StartRunservices.mscOKDoes any service have a status of "Started" ?Not only does it not say "started" it's completely BLANK, except for an ominous blue selection box, selecting the nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Running with no services at all is apparently possible - see this :-http://digg.com/software/Running_Windows_with_no_services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Try :-StartRunservices.mscOKDoes any service have a status of "Started" ?Not only does it not say "started" it's completely BLANK, except for an ominous blue selection box, selecting the nothing.I have to say that you've stumped me with this one !Perhaps someone else can sort you out - but I've run out of ideas - sorry :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Try :-StartRunservices.mscOKDoes any service have a status of "Started" ?Not only does it not say "started" it's completely BLANK, except for an ominous blue selection box, selecting the nothing.I have to say that you've stumped me with this one !Perhaps someone else can sort you out - but I've run out of ideas - sorry :(Please, don't be sorry, I'm really glad I got some honest help on this problem, and it makes reformatting the thing that much easier to do, thanks a bunch for trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Give it a bit - some of our members from the US + Far East won't be logging in until later because of the time differences. One of them may (as Baldrick would say) - "have a cunning plan" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 If no one else can help, you could always try a repair install of XP rather than a re-format + full reinstall ?http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/h...ips/doug92.mspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I see, I think I'll wait a day or two before reformatting it too see if I can benefit from this possible spark of ingenuity, then =). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 First thing I would try is to boot into Last Known Good Configuration - see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307852. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 For some reason, my computer didn't take kindly to being repaired, and well, not it won't load anything, so I'll just reformat it and get the whole thing over with, thanks for the help again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 'Last Known Good Configuration' didn't work either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Nope, it never initiates it for some reason, just freezes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Something for the immediate future - prepare a full system backup and keep it up to date.With this, if you have such a disaster again, you can be up and running again in about half an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Can you run regedit?Navigate to:HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services and tell us what is listed there.You may also want to try loading some services manually. For example, RPC (almost every service is dependent on this)Start > Run > NET START must correspond exactly with a service in the registry key I describe above. RPC is RpcSs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooCaChoo Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough, Windows won't start anymore, but it's ok, at this point it'll be simpler to format the whole box, to which i have no big objection( I save my important files to outside storage.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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