Guest lb Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Israeli soldiers have battled Palestinian gunmen and demolished the family home of a Hamas suicide bomber during a house-by-house sweep for militants in a West Bank city.Five Palestinian civilians were wounded -- including a girl of four and boy of 12 standing nearby -- on the second day of the Israeli incursion, witnesses said on Friday. There was no word on possible militant casualties. Four soldiers were also wounded.A U.S.-backed peace plan envisaging a Palestinian state in Israeli-occupied territory has been derailed by a relapse into a tit-for-tat violence over the past month with Washington largely preoccupied by turmoil in Iraq and a budding election campaign.In New York, the U.N. General Assembly demanded Israel drop a threat to expel or harm Palestinian President Yasser Arafat in a 133-4 vote with 15 abstentions sponsored by Arab and nonaligned states. The United States, Israel and two small Pacific states voted against it.The United States vetoed a similar resolution in the U.N. Security Council on Tuesday. Washington has no veto in the General Assembly, but Assembly resolutions carry far less clout than those of a Security Council dominated by Western powers.Israel, which sees the United Nations as intrinsically biased against it, stirred an international outcry last week when it announced a decision in principle to "remove" Arafat as an "obstacle to peace", without saying when or how it would act.Arafat, 74, denies inciting violence and has vowed to use his personal weapons to resist any move against him.Israeli officials criticised the vote. "Palestinians have once again chosen to divert their efforts to rhetoric such as in the General Assembly instead of focusing on the main issue -- fighting terrorism," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Yoni Peled."It's a positive response, a slap in the face of Israel and whoever supports it," said Nabil Abu Rdeinah, a senior aide to Arafat. "It backs President Arafat and the Palestinian cause."U.S. CONSIDERS DEDUCTING AID TO ISRAELA senior Israeli government source said Prime Minister Ariel Sharon would send a high-ranking delegation to Washington next week to try to defuse U.S. opposition to the routing of a security barrier Israel is building through the West Bank.The United States has said it is considering how much of a $9 billion loan guarantee package it will deduct in response to Jewish settlement-building in the West Bank and that the barrier, which shields some settlements, could be an issue.Israel says the barrier, a mix of fences and walls, is to keep suicide bombers out of its cities. Palestinians call it a "new Berlin Wall" expropriating farmland and in effect annexing terrain they seek for a state under the U.S.-backed peace plan.The senior Israeli source said two options were on the table -- extending the barrier well into the West Bank to include settlements with 30,000 Jews, an option demanded by rightist ministers, or separate fences enclosing individual settlements.U.S. officials want the barrier built as close as possible to the "Green Line" boundary between Israel and the West Bank, and not looped eastward to include Ariel, a major settlement 20 km (12 miles) inside the territory.The U.S.-engineered "road map" peace plan requires Israel to freeze settlement activity in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and Palestinians to halt militant attacks to pave the way for a Palestinian state by 2005.Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz told Israel Radio that Arafat's choice for prime minister, Ahmed Qurie, could prove himself a peace partner only by cracking down on militant groups once he takes office with his cabinet, expected next week.President George W. Bush said on Thursday the "road map" had stalled and he blamed what he called Arafat's failed leadership.Palestinians say the road map was undermined by Israel's continued raids to kill or capture militants even after they declared a ceasefire in June. They cancelled it a month ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 I don't honestly see any possibility in the near future of any solution emerging. Right wing Jews want to carry on occupying the best Palestinian land, and many Muslim fanatics just want to carry on killing Jewish civilians, including children. The fanatics from both sides need rounding up and putting onto a deserted island to fight it out to the finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Gawd, here we go How can Israel legally exile Yasser from his own country ? Murder him, yes, by brute force and ignorance, but tell him to leave his own gaff ? Could the Brits have 'exiled' Gerry Adams ? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lb Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 nowhere is the word legal mentioned, it is a threat and probably one that should be carried out.And if britain had of exiled Gerry adams, the peace process would have started much much sooner than it did, and the fragile peace that we curently have would be a lot further along than it currently is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 If anyone really believes that Arafat is the driving force behind Palestinian resistance to Israels evil & brutal regime (they learned a lot from the Nazis), they need their heads checked.If you think Adams is likewise, the driving force behind the IRA, you also need yer bumps felt.The Palestinians need to wake up and realise that America, the main funder of both the IRA and Israel, is a much softer target than Israel. Scare the Yanks out of the equation and we might see some improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 http://www.bushflash.com/idiot.html :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lb Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 utter diretribe...Jerry adams is the biggest terrorist in ireland, one word from him and it will all kick off again and i firmly believe that it is only a matter of time before it does.....You seem to want to blame america for the entire worlds problems....what about kashmir...you havent blamed them for that yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 utter diretribe...Jerry adams is the biggest terrorist in ireland, one word from him and it will all kick off again and i firmly believe that it is only a matter of time before it does.....You seem to want to blame america for the entire worlds problems....what about kashmir...you havent blamed them for that yet....Not all. MOST!!! :P ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Seems to me that Blair has an agreement with Bush on supressing funds to Irish terrorists, part of the Iraq support deal. Unfortunately, that agreement will lapse if there's a change of government on either side of the Atlantic. Fortunately however, I think the Irish Republicans are beginning to see how easy it is to make changes from within the acceptable political structure. I hope so anyway, because I rather like the Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Fortunately however, I think the Irish Republicans are beginning to see how easy it is to make changes from within the acceptable political structure.It's only 'easy' for them now because they bullied the Brit gov't into listening.Apart from the minor hiccup, there will be lasting peace in Ireland.I hope so anyway, because I rather like the Pats.I'm a Pat ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Ive lost the will to argue .........!we should never have got rid of hanging of terrorists ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I'm a Pat Arrgh ! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I'm a Pat Arrgh ! :D bejayzus! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 It doesn't sit comfortably with your mincing avatar. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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