Guest lb Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 International negotiations have begun on how and whether to manage the Internet, along with associated problems such as junk e-mail and pornography. Organisers said a two-week meeting, which began this week, aims to narrow differences among countries ahead of the World Summit on the Information Society in mid-December. The summit, organized by the United Nations' International Telecommunication Union, seeks common policy on using information technology to create greater prosperity. The current plan includes protecting minors from harmful content and assuring confidentiality of personal information, while addressing unsolicited e-mail, known as spam. Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, a communications professor from Denmark's Aarhus University, said many users are concerned that governments will impose regulations that will stifle freedom of the Internet. Kleinwaechter, one of the meeting's "civil society" representatives, said controls should stem from the users, not governmentssource: YahooSo how would you regulate the internet, if it is even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 So how would you regulate the internet, if it is even possible?I haven't got a clue! However, I do hope they succeed in generating more unsolicited pornographic emails B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 No worries, Sir T. I just signed up at 'The Pink Place' using your addy. :D 'Regulation' is perhaps the wrong word, as it applies that somebody is in charge. I believe that the 'net should be absolutely unfettered in terms of what you can put on it and what you can view. If you like, it's an extension of one's mind as each individual, in actuality, is free to choose what they 'think' about. The web is a repository for our minds and it has a dark side too. However, I am not a totally irresponsible individual and realise the requirements of protecting young and impressionable minds from premature adulthood. This I believe to be the responsibility of parents though. There is no difference between the content of the web and the content of books, films and videos that children have been able to access. Some children will heed the instructions of their parents, some children won't. That's life. Those that wander into the ares of the disgusting and the depraved will learn that some adults are utterly objectionable, but that's hardly news, is it. So, in my highly idealistic free Internet, all content is accessible to the individual, just like the content of that individual's mind, but, just as the individual is free from third-party intrusion into his 'thoughts', so should the Internet be free from unsolicited intrusion. Just as billboards were excluded from the U.K.'s highways, as a distraction to drivers, so should unsolicited advertising be excluded from the web.It should simply be illegal to use it for selling, other than from 'fixed' locations or by request. The penalties should be very severe, the debateable 'harmlessness' of the crime multiplied by the numbers of people affected to produce an adequate deterrent. ( The increase in physical junk mail might keep alive a dying postal service and ex advertising executives could be re-employed in the paper recycling industry :D ) ISP's would be the policemen in this shangri-la, leaving other law-enforcement resources free to crush drug-traffickers and terrorists. The ISP's would initially be paid for this work out of the fines collected and then later by taxing the large companies who benefit most financially from a spam-free environment. Just as ID cards should be voluntary, so should be the granting of access to one's personal information or the giving of DNA samples. Again, the ISP's are the key players, not only to investigate complaints but by being given the power to prosecute. Naturally, prosecution lies within the mandate of the State so the nationalisation of ISP's should be a priority. The control of the goverments that control the nationalised ISP's should come about by frequent electronic referenda. We, the Internet users, through diligent participation in such referenda, will then remould the government and its IT maintenance and policing bodies, the ISPs, to organisations totally dedicated to our own welfare. Thus we will have ensured our freedom and won our lives back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lb Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 :D moon, sometimes you scare me....... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 LOL ! I was going to say - 'Don't be scared, be active', but I'd have been preaching to the wrong guy. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Thus we will have ensured our freedom and won our lives back.I gotta buy mine back in the divorce courts :help: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecow Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I wouldn't regulate it just another way of monitoring what people are allowed to see. It may be done on the premsis of Junk email/ porn etc but the they will broaden there claws into something else............ all what you will be left with is a high speed version of Ceefax.It's just a case of Big Brother monitoring your every move, a huge nanny state is emerging with things "done for our benifit" but without are choice or say so. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nellie2 Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I can go for a walk in the park and my thoughts are my own. But in my normal day to day activities ... going to work... coming home... all that, I have to constantly consider others, how my actions affect them and so on.This may be selfish but the internet is the only place I can really be me...... I don't have to try to impress anyone, I don't have to worry if my bum looks to big in what ever Im wearing...... I can go where ever I want to and lose myself in some silly game or on a carribean beach somewhere or just do some research. If I am feeling lonely I have plenty of friends on the internet. Some people who's name is the only thing I know about them but who still worry about me and the things that are going on in my life. If the internet was regulated then that last freedom that I have could disappear... There are some annoying aspects of the internet but I......... as an informed user...I can deal with them.1. I delete spam from the server2. I have a pop up blocker3. Antivirus and firewall up to date4. I Stay away from dodgy sites.......... unless I happen to be feeling that way inclined but then that is my choice.5. Spyware is prevented from landing on my system and that which does is cleaned off on a regular basisSo perhaps we shouldn't be thinking about regulating the internet but educating those who use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Well said, nellie. Of course, that's what sites like this one, and the Pit, are essentially for. Also, if I may add, there is a lot for everybody to learn, experts as well as novices, and the info. filters on down. I'm sure that we could learn a lot from hackers, for example, as we move into an era wherein big business is trying to take control of the 'Net and our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Your paranoia will get you lonnnngggg before the government does :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I'm not paranoid. I've just got a desire to be free. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I'm not paranoid. I've just got a desire to be free.  :)ok ok enough of that! put yer goddamn clothes back on right this minute :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Moon ....your not going to get a medium that can reach to so many people with out commerce rearing its head within it....! ...........I think that the internets golden years are now ......!The money is now starting to change the environment that the net inhabits ....Micr$ofts chat closure is just the start ...(soon to be reopened with subscription at a cost) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I'm not paranoid. I've just got a desire to be free.  :)ok ok enough of that! put yer goddamn clothes back on right this minute :o Leave him alone - Naked is good! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I can be had for a price :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I can be had for a price :DWouldn't pay for porn!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I, Madam, am art. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I, Madam, am art.  :rolleyes:All in the eye of the beholder, as thay say................ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Moon ....your not going to get a medium that can reach to so many people with out commerce rearing its head within it....! ...........Sorry, tankus. Ladies first, you know. :D Therein lies the nub. I think that good free music would spread around the 'net like wildfire. I believe that there are enough people who are anti big business who would give their talents for free, like many do with graphics and software. If we all refused to pay, those would be the only ones left. I like to start the day with a little idealism, using my free browser on an ad-free free forum with a bit of free speech. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I, Madam, am art.  :rolleyes:methinks you left a 'T' out :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I, Madam, am art.  :rolleyes:methinks you left a 'T' out :D :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I'm a PatMethinks you left an 'r' out :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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