Bug_zs Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 January 10, 2012Dear Forum, I'm jumping from Windows 98SE to Windows 7 and having a problemusing Norton's Ghost with 7. I'm sure getting the answer to these four questions will lead me on a pathto success:First, this is my new box's Hard Drive.........1 TB Hitachi 7200 RPMPre-partitioned by Bootable CD of "EaseUS Partition Master Pro v9.0", which isa 2012 version of good old DOS's "Partition Magic"./>http://www.partition-tool.com/professional.htmC: 75 Gigs NTFS Windows 7D: 25 Gigs NTFS Program FilesE: 15 Gigs NTFS Used for making 4 Gig+ DVD filesF: 600 Gigs Fat32G: 30 Gigs Fat32 Ghost ImagesH: to M: 3 to 30 Gigs in size, all Fat32.1. What is the maximum size partition that DOS, from a Windows 98SE boot disk, can see?2. Is there a newer version of DOS out there, perhaps from a Windows ME boot floppy, or Windows XP?3. When I used Partition Master, after the Primary 75 Gig C: was made, I could have gone two different routes... A: Make the balance of the HDD an "Extended Partition" and then make D: to M: all "Logical Drives" within that "Extended Partition". B: Make the balance of the HDD, D: to M: ALL "Logical Drives". Which is the proper way to go?4. With the C:, D: and E: being NTFS, when I boot the HDD with a floppy boot disk and get the A: prompt, if I type C: and hit enter, will I get a C: prompt that in actuality will be the F: drive? Thanks in advance for all of your help. Bug_zs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANEMAN Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hi. First thing that strikes me is one hard disk with six partitions containing data is far too much of a risk if the hard drive fails, so we will try to be very sensible, be forward thinking along the lines of preventive maintenance, - and we wont be doing that will we ? - No ! :) Disks are inexpensive at the moment so we can afford to spread out a bit more. What we shall do first is remove the partitions from the drive and just have one NTFS partition, install Windows 7 and let this sit comfortably in the 1TB. Upon installation the Windows install may not be satisfied with the NTFS file system that you may have formatted the drive with. This is not unusual. Let the Windows install reformat if it wishes too. Once installed "shrink" the operating system partition from within Windows 7 to the minimum the system will let you. This can be fairly high but more useful than the mere 75GB you were planning on. That size (75GB) can quickly get filled up and cause problems when trying to defragment the file system in the future. (Once again forward thinking for preventive maintenance) Main message here is get the operating system up and running first, and then you can fiddle and fart around with all the other gobbledygook you were muttering on about at your leisure. Dont overcomplicate something that is not in the slightest complicated. Rethink your whole plan. You can have more than one instance of Windows 7 on that big disk, multibooting using EasyBCD ( http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/ )With room for "Data Partitions" that can be backed up with a rolling backup system to another HDD. Move data storage (My Pictures, My Music, etc,etc, i.e - now known as "Special Folders") from within the confines of the C: partition either from within Windows 7 or with "Special Folders Manager 2.0.1.161" ( http://www.nezavisim...m/?cat=2&scat=8 ) We are now up-and-running without a mention of DOS. Doesn't that seem all a little less archaic so far ?Now you can fiddle around with Windows 98, FAT 32, Norton Ghost, and all of those still useful names of yesteryear to your hearts content. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Disks are inexpensive at the moment so we can afford to spread out a bit more.Don't know when you last bought a H/D ? ........... but at present they are in no way "inexpensive" :) - compared to 3 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANEMAN Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Two weeks ago Boris, and cheaper than they were 3 months ago. Jus' gotta know where to go paddling in the murky waters of Thailand. :) Dont believe all that stuff about a shortage. Warehouses are packed with the ruddy things. It's an "Orchestrated" shortage to push prices up. More drives out there than secondhand cars on Arthur Daley's Car-lot. :lol: A mate phoned me from the Enfield Middx area telling me a nearby "BestBuy" store was closing down. I got him to get me 3 x WD 750GB scorpio black drives for about the same price as EBuyer are advertising one drive for (£114.88)He posted them down to me, new boxed, and with WD warranty. - Yep checked 'em out. - They are keepers. :D There are still good deals out there if you take the time to look, poke around a bit, and keep your ear to the ground. The loss of data when a big HDD goes down ? - Priceless. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug_zs Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 January 11, 2012Mane,>and we wont be doing that will we ? - No !Oh, yes we will! Sitting in the wings is a 2TB Seagate ST320005N4A1AS-RK/>http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?name=st320005n4a1as-rk-barracuda-3-5-sata-5900rpm-2tb-hd&vgnextoid=daea6583b2561210VgnVCM1000001a48090aRCRD&locale=en-US#tTabContentOverviewthat will reside in a Kingwin SATA Aluminum Mobile Rack with Triple Fans, model KF-813-BK/>http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Aluminum-Mobile-Triple-KF-813-BK/dp/B000CDR8OG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313911627&sr=8-1It will be connected to the computer once a week for backup and then dis-connectedso any goof-up is not passed along to it and wear and tear is kept to a minimum!>What we shall do first is remove the partitionsWe shall not. Letting Win 7 do the formatting automatically creates a 100MB hiddenpartition that screws up any use of Ghost to restore the C: drive.>Main message here is get the operating system up and running first, I already have. As I said above: "C: 75 Gigs NTFS Windows 7" I appreciate the advice, but I need those 4 questions answered so I can set up aC: drive cloning routine. Any "DOSite" out there with the answers???Bug_zs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANEMAN Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Letting Win 7 do the formatting automatically creates a 100MB hidden partition that screws up any use of Ghost to restore the C: drive. That Partition has never, ever, ever, screwed up a C: drive restore for me when I used Norton Ghost even when beta testing Win 7.Has never screwed it up for me using Acronis or Macrium Free Version either. And yes, I used Norton Ghost way back in time when "Radified" was thought to be the authorative website for cloning and disk imaging. http://clone.radified.com/ Even made contributions there. Imaging always then thought to be preferable to cloning for regular backups. set up a C: drive cloning routine. I take it by this that you mean you will be setting up a routine to regularly image the 75GB C: partition rather than cloning that individual 75GB partition directly to lots of other hard drives on a regular basis. Is there a newer version of DOS out there Newer than what ? The last standalone version of DOS was 6.22. You can have a working DOS 8 if you combine 6.22 with the DOS startup disk that Windows throws out. Google for it and you will find it. Any "DOSite" out there with the answers??? What is wrong with you ? Have you become so embroiled in this subterfuge of DOS that your memory has gone ?You posted on the SysOpt.com forum with a time stamp of January 10th 2012 10.06 PMHere is the link if you do not believe me or are suffering amnesia: http://www.sysopt.co...threadid=206468 I think one of your main problems could be that you know less about computers than you profess to know, and have greatly underestimated the whispering wires of the internet. I'll give it to you though, I was tipped off that you had managed to write even more crap over there than you did here. http://www.sysopt.co...threadid=206468 Nice to see you, to see you nice. :lol: @echo off old boy, - chocks away !Never pee into the wind. It always comes right back on you. Thanks Train. :) My next book: How to install Windows 8 using a Linux/Dos batch file + Autoit, found in the caves of Afghanistan.Code name: Taliban 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bludgard Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Letting Win 7 do the formatting automatically creates a 100MB hidden partition that screws up any use of Ghost to restore the C: drive The System Reserved partition is optional.Delete the non-System Reserved partition >Extend System Resrved partition to fill the drive >Format the recovery partition >Install Win7 to the new partition (Disk0 Partition1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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