Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 There are basically two areas where you can remove unnecessary things: startup programs services For each item in these areas you need to find out what it's doing, and if you need it. Disable it if you don't need it. If you still hear your hard drives being accessed when you think they should not, use a program like Process Monitor to find what is accessing them. I personally don't worry about hard drives. I know they have an average life span of about 10 years, and after that they need to be replaced. Making regular backups helps to avoid loss of data. The HD I use for backups is only connected when I do a backup. Any ideas for unnecessary stuff to get rid of? I've found a list of some of it: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-plus-windows-7-services-you-may-not-need/ Boris also suggested the black viper pages. I would love to have my HDs running for 10 years, but instead, the C drive lasts about 1.5 years, others 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Surely you need to take basic classes in computing. This is how I learned, followed by help on such forums as this. A computer cannot do anything without the main hard drive working. I have full control over my computer, and there are only four programs running on start up.I know, that a computer cannot do anything without the main hard drive working. I thought, that was clear. What I'm saying, is that the other drives doesn't have to power on, for the main hard drive to work, unless you actually open a file on them. If the index, I was talking about (not windows indexing) were present, the drives wouldn't power on prematurely. The main drive is the one, I was saying, that had to be on, for this whole thing to work. Re. what services you can disable safely, I suggest you read :-"Windows Services ~ Includes complete explanations of each service and advice on which services you can safely disable"on this page :- http://www.blackviper.com/Specifically for Windows 7 services - http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/Thank you, that's really helpful!Oh, I forgot to say - to tweak Windows 7 services safely - you can also use this :- http://www.thewindowsclub.com/smart-a-utility-for-tweaking-windows-7-vista-xp-servicesThank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 ...an attempt to explain better, and to confirm, whether I'm missing something.In my initial post, I compared harddrives with boxes in a warehouse, and this seems to have triggered opinions, that I need extra education. I don't see why. I'll try to be thorough in my explanation.Boxes and harddrives have some things in common:- They can both contain "something", you can access- ...something you can move- ...something you can remove- They can both contain an index, over what's there(on a HD, you're not really moving or removing anything, just rearranging a type of switches. There's always something, and you can arrange it in 2 ways, to create data. Fx., on a HD, moving equals copying, then erasing. You simply copy the positions of the switches, then leave the source switches and mark them as deleted. (or fx. set them all to 0), Practically, it doesn't matter. Most people see it as accessing, moving and removing, and that view works with what I'm saying)I've known, since the 80s, that harddrives moves a type of switches around, to create 1s and 0s, or ONs and OFFs. Everything must therefore be translated into 1s and 0s. (I had it explained as very tiny magnets, being switched between two places, haven't confirmed it though) But all that technical stuff doesn't matter at all, to what I'm saying. All I'm saying, is that something is being accessed, moved and removed. Now, compare each harddrive to a box, in a warehouse. Each of the boxes contain a piece of paper, with an index.There are fx. 10 boxes in a warehouse, and there are 10 HDs in a computer. I walk over to box no. 5, and I read the index. (the G drive is accessed) Now compare the time it takes, to walk to the box and read the index, to the time, it takes for the HD to spin up and access. (They're not equal, but in both cases, time has passed) And compare the wearing of my legs, shoes and the floor, to the wearing of parts in the HD. (In both cases something has been worn) Wouldn't it be a good idea, to make a copy of the index, in each box, and place it in the first box, you see, when you enter the warehouse (the C drive) ??? When I'm at box no. 5 anyway, I might as well copy the index right away. This saves me from walking over there again, just to check, what's in there. I would like windows to, at least have the option to index everything. And I consider it a serious flaw for an operating system, using technology as unstable and power consuming as HDs, to not make the index. It's up to 15000RPM (maybe less, when it's only text??), each time, a HD has to access a few KB of information, and then it stays on for a while after...That just seems retarded. For SSD drives, it's probably not a problem.If I'm missing fundamental understanding here, I must also be misunderstanding boxes and warehouses. I'm open to suggestions, just please explain, what I'm wrong about, and how I'm wrong...would help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 If I have to enter the root of a HD, to simply view file name, size, length and so on, this information should be stored on my C drive. Windows apparently already started it, by storing the size of the other drives on the C drive. Why not the other data? And why not make it possible to store small video previews and pictures in the index file as well? Then we can read simple text and preview our files, without doing more RPM, than my car does twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Does anyone get this, or am I talking nonsense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I understand what you are saying, but AFAIK know you can't get Windows to work like you think it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 :) That's why, I should probably learn, how to program my own, tailor made OS. Make your own system, damn it! Windows can't be perfect, but they are good at what they do, and it seems hard sometimes. I would love to have the time and patience, to go through with an education like that. Learning everything about it, doesn't interest me that much though, mostly useful little tricks, I can use for projects. But when a "Make your own OS in windows by clicking stuff" -software package is launched, I'm there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaskaa Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I've discovered 7Lite! A program, for removing windows services and apps BEFORE installation...Brilliant! It can create an iso file for burning, and even easily make a bootable USB device. You type in your serial key, and it's all taken care of, when you install windows. There are also lot's of tweaks, and an option to add software to the image, like VLC player, winrar, codec packs and so on.I strongly recommend, for everyone who has original windows, to use it. Even just to make a copy of their fragile Windows DVD, to fx. a USB pen. ( I just got a 16GB for ~10$, and you only need ~8GB ) http://www.rt7lite.com/downloads.html I once tried XPLite, and made a bootable USB pen (4GB) with an unattended installation of only 205MB. It was much harder then, using the command line to put the image onto USB, but the installation goes much faster and smoother. The computer doesn't freeze up much, and you can follow a large progress bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary32 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 If you have these obviously undesirable problems with the way that Microsof company make Microsoft windows operate, why not just dump it absolutely and use one of the many 100 % free free A linux systemunix alternatives instead - as many people do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bludgard Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I would suggest OP install Windows afresh and quit piling in junk apps/progs/toolbars/updaters/garbage with every download. I have close to 80 programs and 30 or so standalone applications on this machine: I am showing 38 processes @ 32% memory on 4GB 64 bit Win 7. Outlook and iExplorer (flash) working the RAM. lolPersonal trial and error in computers and OSs (as well as everything else in life I suppose) leads to the best experience. Fry a couple of mobos and laugh about it; then get serious.Look to Autoruns to disable all that is not needed (it will probably present you with thousands of options) > reboot to uninstall the crapware.Read content of installers before clicking the go/start/install/OK/next/please kill my beloved machine so I can b**** about it.If you got the machine as is (janked-up): My appologies.If this monster was your creation; there it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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