Sir Radfordin Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 If you are shout loudly and I'll come pick your brain :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmascracker Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 What are they :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Uh oh!http://www.audivwsales.eurobell.co.uk/draft.pdfHave a look at the PDF for the work in progress!and in case anyone else is reading, am I right in thinking one argument against ATP on trains was it would cost more than the "value of life" saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Found my quote about ATP:"British Rail presented a report to the Secretary of State for Transport arguing that fitting ATP across the network could not be justified. Its installation would cost about £14 million per life saved which, they said, far outweighed the benefit"http://www.lrb.co.uk/v22/n06/print/biny01_.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigg Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 So they have come out and said what a life is worth at last :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 So they have come out and said what a life is worth at last :(That quote comes from a long time ago, but if you are going to do cost/benefit analysis on something that involves 'human life' you are forced to put a value on it.Some would argue over the ethics of that before even getting to the point of the actuall decision being ethical or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigg Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 who has the right to put price on life ? anyone or no one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 There are no doubt various calculations that can be used to calcualate how much a life is worth - eg. how much you earn, potential to earn, life insurance. Or the cost of saving a life - eg. if x people are involved in a crash how much will it cost to put them right (dr/hopsital/police/rebuilding trainline etc). It is very cold and 'fact' rather than 'warm' and 'loving'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigg Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 How would you put a price on someones life ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intratech Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Depending on how important they are to mine? :blink: :huh: I dunno....can one put a price on life? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 A cats life is probably worth about 1p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 A cats life is probably worth about 1p.Not according to Kant it isn't - it isn't worth anything. A cat is an object that humans can use for their own gain. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 A cats life is probably worth about 1p.Not according to Kant it isn't - it isn't worth anything. A cat is an object that humans can use for their own gain. :rolleyes: It's well worth a penny a kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Everything that lives and breaths ( even cats ) has the right to live as long as they can. So cats have as much right to live here as humans. Even though dogs are higher up than cats in the chain of likeable things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Everything that lives and breaths ( even cats ) has the right to live as long as they can. So cats have as much right to live here as humans. Even though dogs are higher up than cats in the chain of likeable things.Kicking 'em wouldn't stop them from living, and could well give a lot of pleasure to the kicker' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Everything that lives and breaths ( even cats ) has the right to live as long as they can. So cats have as much right to live here as humans. Even though dogs are higher up than cats in the chain of likeable things.Kicking 'em wouldn't stop them from living, and could well give a lot of pleasure to the kicker' Andsome, I'll ask only once, please refrain from your constant parade of anti-cat comments, especially the ones which glorify violence towards defenseless animals.Everyone knows your feelings towards them, there is no need for the constant bashing!BTW I'm a cat owner myself, how would you like me to kick you around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Everything that lives and breaths ( even cats ) has the right to live as long as they can. So cats have as much right to live here as humans. Even though dogs are higher up than cats in the chain of likeable things.Kicking 'em wouldn't stop them from living, and could well give a lot of pleasure to the kicker' Andsome, I'll ask only once, please refrain from your constant parade of anti-cat comments, especially the ones which glorify violence towards defenseless animals.Everyone knows your feelings towards them, there is no need for the constant bashing!BTW I'm a cat owner myself, how would you like me to kick you around! If this is a serious posting, then I am very very surprised. You had better tell everyone else to stop posting cat references if that is the case. I have merely joined in the fun and responded. I would have expected this posting tomorrow April 1st. The day people start taking me seriously in a joke forum heralds the end of life as we know it. What am I to do, ignore people??The mind boggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 I've got my info, you can have your cat fights elsewhere. Time for a topic close me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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