exeem

[Rebel=UK=]

Just got it gonna give it ago. Its still in the beta stages...........and i dont want people oooo p2p bad,illegal full of spyware........this is not

eXeem™ is a brand new Peer-To-Peer program, which is based on the BitTorrent idea. eXeem™ eliminates the need for trackers as nodes in the program will be taking their role. eXeem™ also features easy publication of files to the network as well as a rating and comments system. eXeem™ contains NO SPYWARE. eXeem™ is free and is ad-supported. eXeem™ is currently still in its beta testing phase, which means that the network might not be completely stable yet. You are still very welcome to give eXeem™ a try and see how it is different from other Peer-To-Peer programs.

http://www.exeem.com/

[Redhat]

It has spyware, try exeem lite, google it if you're interested.

[Redhat]

It has spyware, try exeem lite, google it if you're interested.

Third Party Advertising

The ads appearing on the Exeem.com Web site and within eXeem™ application are delivered by our web advertising partner, Cydoor. Information about users of eXeem™ and Exeem.com, such as the number of times they have viewed an ad (but not user name, address, or other personal information), is used to serve ads to users. If you would like more information about Cydoor, please visit: http://www.cydoor.com/Cydoor/Company/CompanyPrivacy.htm

Ads that might appear outside Exeem.com and eXeem™ application are Opt-out ads, that you have a chance to uninstall. Outside Exeem.com and eXeem™ application is eXeem's Toolbar LookSmart .

[Ash]

eXeem™ contains NO SPYWARE...and is ad-supported.

Haha. http://www.exlite.tk Rebel, if you're going to use it.

Oh, and don't be pulled in by the hype. They're cashing in from the Suprnova userbase with a program that does install spyware without consent, with another program optional to try and look somewhat better.

[Rebel=UK=]

dont like it anyhow

[D4\/!d]

So, please clarify things for me. I should not use exeem coz its got spyware, but is it "safe" to use the lite version ? :unsure:

[-pops-]

With ALL P2P software, you are connecting to someone else's computer - that's the whole idea of it. Whether the software itself contains malware is irrelevant. The software supplier has no control over what is contained in the peer computers that you connect to.

I find the whole idea very dangerous.

[nellie2]

Just to clarify... like Kazaa lite, the lite version of exeem has been altered without the owners consent, and is there for an illegal application.

[Rebel=UK=]

well when i had the full version on i ran a scan with pest patrol ,spysweeper, adaware pro and Giant Antispyware & norton antivirus 2005.....and all seemes ok :)

[-pops-]

well when i had the full version on i ran a scan with pest patrol ,spysweeper, adaware pro and Giant Antispyware & norton antivirus 2005.....and all seemes ok :)

That may well be OK - it's what happens afterwards that I'm highlighting. I would hazard that the majority of users of P2P software don't give a monkey's about malware so, anyone accessing their machines in this great camaraderie of file sharing is just laying themselves open to catching anything and everything that is going.

[Ash]

Just to clarify... like Kazaa lite, the lite version of exeem has been altered without the owners consent, and is there for an illegal application.

And, like Kazaa Lite, they should be thanked for offering an alternative without ad-giving programs. Illegal? So? Let eXeem's creators fight that battle.

-pops-, you connect to download .torrent pieces from users, so if the originating torrent file itself had a virus or something you'd be in trouble, otherwise not.

D4\/!d, yes that's right. One frontend bundles Cydoor, one doesn't.

[nellie2]

Ok well healthy debate is good! :)

But the official WF line is that we do not condone or encourage the use of illegal software, or the use of any software for illegal purposes.

You can talk about it as much as you like and tell us what you think, just don't link to anything that I would consider illegal please!

Ta everso :flowers:

[Ash]

Heh, I understand...though that it's perfectly fine to link to a product bundling ad-serving software, but not one that removes those components, seems odd :) (I'm not arguing against your policy, mind.)

[nellie2]

Just 'cos it's legal doesn't mean to say I agree with it or like it! :angry:

[LineOFire]

I am going to have to not recommend this project. It just looks like a money-making program built to use the success of SuprNova as marketing.

Now I am not one to believe in conspiracy theories, but I believe that SuprNova.org was shut down in order to build hype for this new Exeem. The other Bittorrent sites getting shut down was the perfect excuse to shut down SuprNova also. The company that makes Exeem (Swarm Systems Inc.) is now paying Sloncek (the creator of SuprNova) to advertise it's product. Talking about and linking to other torrent sites is now forbidden on Suprnova, all so that people will switch to Exeem.

And bundling with Cydoor (the well known adware/spyware program bundled with Kazaa)? That has to be the lowest form of making money I have seen! :angry: The creators say that a routine run of Spybot or Ad-Aware will get rid of everything. How arrogant do you have to be just assume users will run those programs? It is crossing the line to ask the end user to do that. Not everyone has those programs, much less knows about them, or uses them daily.

After hearing much about the program, both good and bad, I decided to download it for myself. Right after that, I noticed a folder in System32 called adcache, Cydoor DLL's, and a couple of changes to my registry. Ad-Aware was able to detect some of the things it installed.

Upon opening the program, I was very impressed with the color scheme and layout. It looked very flashy and nice. The comment system is implemented in Exeem but I see no improvements with it. One of the staples of SuprNova's success was the ability to keep fake/malicious files off of the network. The comment system is a good step, but it is not enough. Users are still able to add bogus ratings/comments and I fear this will never change. I did some searches and I have already noticed dozens of fake/bogus files and can only assume that soon the situation will become even worse.

It seems to me that Exeem is merely trying to benefit on the huge success of SuprNova and Bittorrent in general. No open source also means that improvements will not be able to be made without the consent of Swarm Systems. This P2P application offers nothing new or innovative to the P2P community and as such will likely turn into the next Kazaa. I have to give it my seal of disapproval. :(

[Rebel=UK=]

well when i had the full version on i ran a scan with pest patrol ,spysweeper, adaware pro and Giant Antispyware & norton antivirus 2005.....and all seemes ok :)

That may well be OK - it's what happens afterwards that I'm highlighting. I would hazard that the majority of users of P2P software don't give a monkey's about malware so, anyone accessing their machines in this great camaraderie of file sharing is just laying themselves open to catching anything and everything that is going.

hmm i think p2p is very safe .

[-pops-]

hmm i think p2p is very safe .

Obviously not cleaned as many machines as I have which have been contaminated by this P2P crap and its dingle-berry hangers on.

A machine I was asked to look at a few weeks ago had 42 viruses and untold amounts of spyware and other undesirable rubbish, all a result of using Kazaa for five days.

[Rebel=UK=]

ive used kazaa for i think 4 years now and havt had one......... :blink: ive had some alerts but thats the reason for having a AV proggy. The people who have all them viruses are the same people who will open unknown email attachments aswell no doubt..."ooo look someone loves me" :huh:

[-pops-]

The people who have all them viruses are the same people who will open unknown email attachments aswell no doubt..."ooo look someone loves me" :huh:

That may be so but these people most likely make up the majority of computer users.

Don't forget that we form a somewhat elite group who "know about these things" and who take precautions against untoward events and intrusions into our machines. If they do occur, we know what to do or where to go to rectify matters.

Anything to encourage simple housekeeping and discourage reckless downloading should be promoted - this includes, in my view, the use of P2P.

I know I'm on the losing side here and I'm rather unusual, I suppose, in that I am not of the persuasion of wanting everything for nothing.

[scuzzman]

Firgured I should chime in - I love a good debate :)

As for p2p, my feelings are kind of bittersweet. I download Linux ISO's from p2p filesharing networks everytime I download. The reason is, it puts the load of the upload on the user, and not on some server that could be better off serving a webpage full of useful information. As for downloading music/movies/etc I'm not against it. I don't do it, but that's just because I don't have the bandwidth or the harddrive. I also find BitTorrent to be incredibly hard to use.

As for the presence of virii/malware on p2p networks, well, it depends on what you get. If you're looking to download cracked applications, one would expect to get something. Someone hs to have learned how to exploit that system by now, aside form the fact that software publishers and MPAA/RIAA alike are attacking p2p with a vengeance.

As for downloading Linux ISO's, I seriously doubt I'll ever see a virus or piece of malware, even if Linux was succeptible to either (which it's NOT succeptible to malware, and to get a virus you have to intentionally run it as root).

[Redhat]

Firgured I should chime in - I love a good debate :)

As for p2p, my feelings are kind of bittersweet. I download Linux ISO's from p2p filesharing networks everytime I download. The reason is, it puts the load of the upload on the user, and not on some server that could be better off serving a webpage full of useful information. As for downloading music/movies/etc I'm not against it. I don't do it, but that's just because I don't have the bandwidth or the harddrive. I also find BitTorrent to be incredibly hard to use.

As for the presence of virii/malware on p2p networks, well, it depends on what you get. If you're looking to download cracked applications, one would expect to get something. Someone hs to have learned how to exploit that system by now, aside form the fact that software publishers and MPAA/RIAA alike are attacking p2p with a vengeance.

As for downloading Linux ISO's, I seriously doubt I'll ever see a virus or piece of malware, even if Linux was succeptible to either (which it's NOT succeptible to malware, and to get a virus you have to intentionally run it as root).

I also get my ISO's mainly from Newsgroups, not P2P exactly I know.

There are quite a few popping up on exeem, but I'm not using it, just thought I'd see what it's like. I also don't like BT, back in the day when people SEEDED their iso's, I got speeds. Now it's just people not being fair.