TBH1 Posted July 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 I really don't know what happened here - - -was / am running completely blind with that utility.Is it all really over ???Can I come home of a night a put me feet up for a while now ??can I stop badgering you all ????One final question - - - - looking at that last screen-shot, do you think its stable, or should I back it up and fdisk it ???Will 'wind' this up tomorrow when I find a list of all the people I need to thank here, though Mr M , Boris and ellas are top of the list for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 TBH1, am I glad you seem to have got it back! :D :P If I were you, I would DEFINITELY get all the data safely checked and backed up, then erase the drive and start afresh. I trust that in future you will always have multiple backups on different media.I will still stick the stuff I promised you in the post. B) Best Wishes. Mr. Mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Mr M - - - I still can't believe it - -in fact, I think I'm dreamin' !! :D I will read up on that utility - I was put onto that when I requested help on PCA for my "write errors" - - - - still can't figure out how to use it.I can't thank you enough for your perseverance ( how do you spell that ??).A big thank you to everyone that took part in this 'discussion' - - - trouble is, if this happened to anyone else, would I remember how to solve it - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 thats fantastic news TBH1 I'm sure the post makes great reading and may be able to help someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 might be worth downloading this trial program :D http://utils.newfreeware.com/programs/1041/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 giving it a go now - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 You do like to risk it TBH1. :blink: I hope that you have made good verified backups of all your data. It will be just your luck that a drive testing program finally sends the drive over the hill. :lol: :P Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Mr M - - - -what you trying to do to me mate ?? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 is the program any good TBH1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 allas - - am just on the trial version - - -though the facilities even there look good - - -particularly the temperature monitors. A bit worried running it again after my mate Mr M saying that - - -waiting on the nod from hom :D Will do one or two screen shots and post in a min.PS - I love this forum :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 new member title on the left there TBH1 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 note the temperature thingies down the bottom left task bar - - - -these were hitting 45+ in the summer we had a couple of weeks ago - - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nellie2 Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 new member title on the left there TBH1 :DOh I say................. very impressive!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 looks good ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 ellas - - -have gone all 'funny' now - - - -don't know what to say :rolleyes: I did wonder at those titles - - -thought I was seeing things when I was windows 3.1 - - -had to recheck my post to see if I had given any ' mis-information' - - then windows 95 - - another re-read - - -made up mate , over the moon, thought I'd set me stall out, make a big impression early doors - -- woops, going into Big Ron mode there for a minute. Now don't you go changing that before I can show me mates tomorow wil you ??One thing, whats that 'warning' thingy ???? Must read the rules one day !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nellie2 Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Everyone has got a warning thingy....... basically if you are a bad boy you get a warning, if you get too many warnings you get booted out!! :( http://www.windowsforum.org/support/forum/...?showtopic=2912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 thanks Nellie2 - - will give it a read now, though I must say the young fella did good, feeding the channels and playing the early ball right - -woops, Big Ron mode again - - must be footie season soon :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 allas - - am just on the trial version - - -though the facilities even there look good - - -particularly the temperature monitors. A bit worried running it again after my mate Mr M saying that - - -waiting on the nod from hom :D Will do one or two screen shots and post in a min.PS - I love this forum :lol:Just a gentle wind up TBH1, you will find I can be quite partial to some obscure wind ups. Normally at Nellie's expense :lol: Unless your drive is really knackered, diagnostic software should do no harm. <_< Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Mr M - - -I have only seen your 'serious' side right now - - - - but will be aware, now, that that isn't the only one :lol: I do know what your saying though - as a rule I never install trial versions of anything, well, hardly ever - - -and when I do, being a little paranoid ( who said that ???? ), I usually revert my system via GoBack - - - - - but I ain't got round to intalling that as Evesham, who I boughtPC from, are still on the case of my problems , well, 2 problems ago re write error thingy saying there may be a confliction between GoBack and Nortons Utilities - - - now considering these two programs have been working quite happily for the last 18 months - - -am waffling on a bit methinks so will stop :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 TBH1If you want a drive tester - download this - only 41k.Used to be freeware - no longer available.It reads all your Drive attributes - unlike Drive Health ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Boris - - did I ever mention that I will be for ever in your debt ??? No ????Boris, I will be forever in your debt :rolleyes: Downloading now - - hey, I'm a software tester now after all !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 BTW - If it shows a WARNING - it doesn't necessarily mean anything.Post back the results if you do get one - so I can have a look.Just "Export Results" - it goes to a text file that you can attach below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phate Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Try changing the jumper setting on the 2nd drive to cable-select. I had a simular problem on XP. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Phate - - - had already tried that - - -like most other things - - -managed to solve this, after a great deal of work by all people on this thread - - but in particularly one or two people who shall remain nameless, if it ain't already obvious by their input - - -and they do know who they are, and I am eternally grateful - - and they are on my Xmas Card list :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 To interpret what the Disk Checkup readings mean :-SMART Attributes MeaningsThere are several attribute classes. Some are drive life-critical, but some are not! Following is a list of some attributes. Please note that it does not describe all possible attributes.AttributesID (hex) Name 01 Read error rate Indicates a rate at which read retries are requested. Lower values indicate that there is a problem with either disk surface or read/write heads. 03 Spin Up Time"Spin up time" describes amount of time it took to spin the platters up to their rated rotation speed. Values above 80 should be considered good. Values between 70 and 80 are still acceptable. There is a known issue with Quantum (Maxtor) hard drives - out-of-the-box new drives drop "Spin up time" to 70 within first two weeks of use, causing program to predict failure within a month. This is usually a false alarm. After some initial "burn-in" period "Spin up time" becomes constant and the drive functions normally04 Start/stop count Raw value of this attribute indicates total number of drive start/stop cycles (including both power on/off switching and suspend/wakeup switching). 05 Reallocated sectors count Indicates amount of spare sector pool available. Spare sectors are used to replace sectors that became bad for some reason. Value of 100 means that no sectors were remapped.Value of 1 means that spare sectors are exhausted due to multiple remaps.The raw value of this attribute shows exact amount of reallocated sectors. 07 Seek Error RateAverage rate of seek errors. This attribute indicates a state of head positioning mechanism. Lower values shows that there is a problem with head positioning.09 Power on hours count Raw value of this attribute indicates how long the drive was working (powered on). 0A Spin retry count Indicates number of times disk was unable to spin platters up on first attempt (lower values mean more retries). The raw value indicates the amount of retries. 0B Recalibration retries Indicates number of times recalibration was requested. Low value (multiple recalibrations) usually indicates some head positioning problem. C Power Cycle CountCount of disk power cycles. The raw value indicates amount of power cycles.C2 Temperature This attribute shows temperature for drives equipped with thermal sensor. C5 Current Pending Sector CountAmount of pending sectors. If the sector issues an error during read or write the drive marks it as pending for a certain time before replacing this error sector with a spare one.C6 Offline Scan Incorrect. Sector CountAmount of error sectors detected during the last off-line scan. C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error CountUDMA controller performs an error checking on data it receives from HDD, ensuring that data was not damaged while transmitted over the cable. Each time the error is detected, controller requests a retransmission, thus slowing down the overall transfer speed. Lower values of "Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate" correspond to higher number of errors, usually indicating a cabling problem.C8 Write error countIndicates a rate at which write retries are requested.Lower values indicate that there is a problem with either disk surface or read/write heads. The raw value indicates amount of write errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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