Dencandy Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Is your Internet Service Provider manipulating your web access to favour sites with which it has a financial relationship? It seems that some do exactly this, as indicated by this article from the New Scientist (HERE). Google is considering letting us know if our ISPs are doing this, as they favour "equal access for all", which seems to me a good thing. The linked articles, though a bit difficult to interpret, are also interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have not noticed any such problems with Virgin. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hb_Kai Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Actually i got that problem when my Mum was on Virgin too... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hb_Kai Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I posted another post because i couldn't find a edit button :Actually, are they allowed to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dencandy Posted June 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Actually, are they allowed to do that?You mean ISPs favour some sites which give them a kick-back? Seems like it. The internet is like the Wild West, but without a sheriff. We have to be our own sheriffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hb_Kai Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 No, i mean tamper with your internet lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scarthy © ® ™ Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 I believe VM (Virgin Media) is messing around with their connections! I have read somewhere that they are planning to 'speed up links' to paying websites and restrict others (like Blog sites and NON PAYING SITES!). I have noticed, since installing FF3, that there are times when certain sites take ages to load and the times are outside the 11hour restrictions that VM have in place! <--- 11hours, like half a day isn't enough 'capping' on it's own! And this is from a browser that was 'lightning fast @ loading webpages!"This is very serious and not a joke, In 2012 (maybe before) every major ISP in the world is going to charge you for visiting sites on the internet.You will have to buy a package of sites in a similar way you buy a package of channels with Sky or Virgin Media TV. You will be able to visit smaller sites but you will either have to pay a small fee to visit that site or the site will be put in the slow lane. What I mean by that is that Virgin have already stated that they are doing deals with companies to fast track their sites, Sites from individuals or smaller companies who dont pay VM will be put in a "slow lane" and it will take ages for that site to load. Over time those sites will die as no one will visit any more. The other option, as I stated above is a to pay a small fee to visit those sites, Again, Over time those smaller sites will die. Who will pay to visit a blog or a wiki etc etc?This is NOT A JOKE. Virgin Media, BT, Sky, Google and more have already made statements on the subject. Why am I aiming my protest at Virgin Media? Because they are pioneering the movement in the UK.> http://stopvirgin.movielol.org/Sky are also to enforce usage caps?> http://www.skyuser.co.uk/index.php?news=4953Just more grim news for the users of the internet! I hope they "shoot themselves in the foot" and lose custom to other ISP's, who are more about 'keeping it as it is needed by the end users!' - And then they get greedy/restrictive and become the target for a time <--- Deja Vu?. "Mr Greed does NOT succeed!!!"In the 5 or so years that I have been 'online', getting rid of the internet has never seemed such a possibility to me as it does now. The world is changing and we're all having to pay (UK anyway) alot more money for less product - it's a corporate mess and getting worse! 40-50% price increases across the board, from fuel to our grocery shopping bills. It's disgusting and they keep 'getting away with it'! VIVA REVOLUTION ! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 On that website I cannot see where I can express an opinion. P.S. Nice pair of boobs on U Tube. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarthy © ® ™ Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 My statement today shows that VW have dropped the charge of the 'M' package by £1 ! ! ! Oooooh how generous and I aint counting any chickens just yet ! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarthy © ® ™ Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Update for VirginMedia users. :)Virgin Media: ‘Absolutely No Possibility’ of Disconnecting File-SharersVirgin Media, plagued by a recent flurry of bad publicity thanks to its policy of working with the music industry to warn file-sharers, has announced today that there is “absolutely no possibility” that it will disconnect its users from the Internet or hand over their details to the music industry.As the war of words over file-sharing in the UK heats up, the music industry represented by the BPI has been seeking ways to stop an estimated 6 million British citizens from sharing music. It has been pressurizing ISPs to take responsibility for the actions of their subscribers, and demanding that they disconnect those who share unauthorized music, something the ISPs don’t want to do.To its credit, one ISP, Carphone Warehouse, has refused to comply. Others are working with the music industry and at the forefront of that group is Virgin Media.Virgin has been receiving quite a lot of bad publicity recently after it was revealed that it agreed to work with the music industry to send out so-called ‘educational warnings‘ to its customers the BPI accuse of file-sharing. Virgin has sent out hundreds of these at the behest of the music industry and they have been dropping through mail boxes up and down the country. The letters come in an envelope and printed on the outside are the words: “Important: If you don’t read this, your broadband could be disconnected” so recipients could be forgiven for coming to the conclusion that, frankly, if they don’t read it, their broadband could be disconnected.However, Virgin Media told has told Jim over at Newsbeat that the printing on the envelope was “a mistake” and there is “absolutely no possibility” of legal action or disconnection for any recipient of these letters. Nice to know.Furthermore, Asam Ahmad from Virgin notes that they cannot be 100% sure that the person they send the letters to has actually committed any offense at all. “It is important to let our customers know that their accounts have been used in a certain way but we are happy to accept it may not be the account holder that’s involved.”He goes on to highlight the problematic issue of incorrectly accusing someone due to a lack of solid evidence: “It could be someone else in the family or someone living in a shared house. It could even be someone stealing wi-fi. We are not making any form of accusation.”Virgin Media has also stated that it will not hand over the personal details of anyone accused by the BPI “under any circumstances”. This is a good start by Virgin and all credit to them for taking this stance but the reality is that Virgin hands over its subscriber’s details in the blink of an eye when faced with a court order to do so. We know for a fact that they hand over the details of petty file-sharers to the likes of lawyers Davenport Lyons for the alleged sharing of one cheap game costing little more than a single album. However, the BPI has said in the past that it doesn’t want to start taking legal action against individuals.Source - TorrentFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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