Windows is ruining my computer

[Thomaskaa]

Windows consists of alot of applications and services for them. When windows starts, and I look at task manager, there's more than 60 processes and more than 100 services running. I only need a few to go to the internet, and work with files. Why can't those processes and services be loaded, when needed? Another thing is the almost retarded way, windows manages harddrives. A harddrive, running windows, is constantly being worn by processes and services, almost noone uses. To top it off, windows also RANDOMLY accesses other harddrives, for no reason at all. Sometimes, when I open a folder, only with shortcuts, windows starts to spin up another harddrive, not in any way related to the folder. Windows has something called "indexing", which doesn't really do anything than make searches faster. To me, indexing harddrives is putting all the information on files on the C drive, and only starting the other drives, WHEN YOU PRESS PLAY! Why power up a drive, just to access pure text on files? Index them, for christ sakes. If I had a warehouse, full of unmarked boxes, I would make an index over location and content. You have thrown that index away, and are making our computers constantly access information, it already has. What is your problem?

[-pops-]

You post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of computers.

[Thomaskaa]

You post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of computers.

Please explain to me, how I should understand it! And I'm looking for answers to my simple questions, no an evaluation. If you can answer them, please do! From your post, I understand that you DO understand computers. Then explain please!

[Thomaskaa]

You post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of computers.

Oh yes, and please explain, how writing an index over a warehouse is any different, than storing it on a harddrive

[Thomaskaa]

You post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of computers.

And, why do you think, it says NEWBIE. There's lots of things, I don't know! Your profile says: Forum Moderator. That sounds important. Do you just leave short, unexplained messages for people, instead of helping them? What is YOUR problem?

[-pops-]

Perhaps if you took some time in learning about computers and how they function - college course, text books or other method of learning then you find out how and why some of the things you complain about do happen.

This is a forum designed to help with specific problems and difficulties, not as a general teaching aid.

[Thomaskaa]

Perhaps if you took some time in learning about computers and how they function - college course, text books or other method of learning then you find out how and why some of the things you complain about do happen.

This is a forum designed to help with specific problems and difficulties, not as a general teaching aid.

College course...text books??? The internet is here, to avoid wasting my time on that. I'm not allowed to use this as a teaching aid, you say. Why the hell not??? It's a forum, answering questions about windows. I'm asking some questions here, and I'll spell it out for you:

1. Why does windows not use the C drive for indexing the other drives?

2. Why does 100's of services and processes run, when they're not in use?

If you can answer, please do, but you seem to be here, just to annoy people. How many problems did you solve since 2003, pops?

[Thomaskaa]

All you do, is tell me, I'm stupid, But as far as I know, you don't know anything about computers. Prove me wrong

[Boris]

Thomaskaa

If you have these apparently unacceptable issues with the way that Microsoft make Windows function, why not just ditch it completely and use one of the many free open source Linux solutions instead - as many people do ?

[Thomaskaa]

You seem to think, I just want to write filth about windows, not at all! I payed more than 100 dollars for windows 7, and I can say many good things about it. I find it much better than MACOS and Ubuntu. But I'm so sick of windows, doing things, I have no control over. I am a customer, and would like answers. Are you saying, I'm not allowed to search for information on your forums? If so, just say so, and I'll certaintly find another place, where I'm allowed to speak

[Thomaskaa]

Thomaskaa

If you have these apparently unacceptable problems with the way that Windows functions, why not just ditch it completely and use one of the many free open source Linux solutions instead - as many people do ?

I do have both ubuntu and winxp installed, but I would like to play the new games, and fx use photoshop and autocad. I don't think they're available on Ubuntu, but It's nice to have for internet and smaller apps. It's really lite too.

[Thomaskaa]

Thomaskaa

If you have these apparently unacceptable problems with the way that Windows functions, why not just ditch it completely and use one of the many free open source Linux solutions instead - as many people do ?

I do have both ubuntu and winxp installed, but I would like to play the new games, and fx use photoshop and autocad. I don't think they're available on Ubuntu, but It's nice to have for internet and smaller apps. It's really lite too.

But I would love some insights on how to disable some of the services and so on. I know a few tricks, but there's still alot running

[Boris]

You seem to think, I just want to write filth about windows, not at all! I payed more than 100 dollars for windows 7, and I can say many good things about it. I find it much better than MACOS and Ubuntu. But I'm so sick of windows, doing things, I have no control over. I am a customer, and would like answers. Are you saying, I'm not allowed to search for information on your forums? If so, just say so, and I'll certaintly find another place, where I'm allowed to speak

You can ask whatever you like, but please realise that this Forum has no official links with Microsoft.

If you wish to query the rationale behind the way they do their coding then it might be more benificial for you to post the questions in the Microsoft Community Forums ?

[Boris]

But I would love some insights on how to disable some of the services and so on. I know a few tricks, but there's still alot running

Re. what services you can disable safely, I suggest you read :-

"Windows Services ~ Includes complete explanations of each service and advice on which services you can safely disable"

on this page :- http://www.blackviper.com/

Specifically for Windows 7 services - http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

[Thomaskaa]

You can ask whatever you like, but please realise that this Forum has no official links with Microsoft.

If you wish to query the rationale behind the way they do their coding then it might be more benificial for you to post the questions in the Microsoft Community Forums ?

You can ask whatever you like, but please realise that this Forum has no official links with Microsoft.

If you wish to query the rationale behind the way they do their coding then it might be more benificial for you to post the questions in the Microsoft Community Forums ?

I'll try that, thanks

[Thomaskaa]

Re. what services you can disable safely, I suggest you read :-

"Windows Services ~ Includes complete explanations of each service and advice on which services you can safely disable"

on this page :- http://www.blackviper.com/

Specifically for Windows 7 services - http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

Thank you, that's really helpful!

[Boris]

Happy to have been of some use :D

[Thomaskaa]

Re. what services you can disable safely, I suggest you read :-

"Windows Services ~ Includes complete explanations of each service and advice on which services you can safely disable"

on this page :- http://www.blackviper.com/

Specifically for Windows 7 services - http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

Thank you, that's really helpful!

You wouldn't know of a way to make windows create an index, so that I can enter a folder, without the harddrive powering on?

[Boris]

If you don't like Win 7 indexing, just turn it off - see :-

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l=251694&a=251692&po=4,00.asp

I will also keep deleting any further posts you make of an inflammatory nature - play by our rules and I will endeavour to help - if not then it is at your own risk.

[Thomaskaa]

If you don't like Win 7 indexing, just turn it off - see :-

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l=251694&a=251692&po=4,00.asp

I will also keep deleting any further posts you make of an inflammatory nature - play by our rules and I will endeavour to help - if not then it is at your own risk.

Thanks, and sorry. I'll stop annoying him!

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

Windows has something called "indexing", which doesn't really do anything than make searches faster.

Indexing is very useful if you need to search for local information on a regular basis. It's not only for documents, of which I have tens of thousands on my computer, I also need to search for obscure system files etc.

If you don't want automatic indexing, turn it off. If I understand your initial post correctly, you want to create a manual index? That sounds like a full-time job to me, which Windows can do much better!

As for all the processes and services you don't need, turn them off as well.

But most of this stuff is very useful, making Windows 7 an unbelievable powerful operating system. I am not sure that anyone wants to go back to Windows 95 or 3.x, where we had just a handful of running processes. Today's hardware can do a lot more, and I am happy about it!

[Boris]

Re. what services you can disable safely, I suggest you read :-

"Windows Services ~ Includes complete explanations of each service and advice on which services you can safely disable"

on this page :- http://www.blackviper.com/

Specifically for Windows 7 services - http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

Thank you, that's really helpful!

Oh, I forgot to say - to tweak Windows 7 services safely - you can also use this :- http://www.thewindowsclub.com/smart-a-utility-for-tweaking-windows-7-vista-xp-services

[andsome]

Surely you need to take basic classes in computing. This is how I learned, followed by help on such forums as this. A computer cannot do anything without the main hard drive working. I have full control over my computer, and there are only four programs running on start up.

[Thomaskaa]

Just to make things a bit more clear, and less against windows, I thought I should explain some things...
Forget about the title. It's not really windows, ruining my computer... It's me. I run loads of editing software, that wears the hell out of my harddrives. I usually use the C drive for most things, and 1-2 500GB drives for streaming other files. I've changed alot of harddrives, and what I'm looking for are suggestions, for minimizing windows services, apps and drive activity. I'm sorry for my harsh words against windows.
As for my education, I didn't get much, but I don't see, what I'm missing about computers. Back in ~1987-1996, I had an AmstradCPC128 and learned to program a whole lot in BASIC, then an Amiga500 (for music), and another one, when that one broke. I had 4 PCs from 286-PI after that, and learned some DOS programming. I've had a "big" computer, for heavy tasks, since 1998, (BP6, dual Celeron processors, 1GB ram, running Windows2000) and have been putting my own PCs together since. I've had about 6, all pretty big, when they where put together. I've also had 2X6 month, courses in electricity. (flunked the first time, and had to buckle down again, but got a 10 (Danish rules) in the theoretical test, 7 in the practical stuff) It involved soldering and lots of math. So I also know some things about circuits and components. What am I missing here?
When I fx. hear my HDs start, and I'm not touching the computer, or when windows accesses my drive, just to read pure text, it's for me not a question of understanding computers, it's a question of listening. I can hear, what's going on. If it's actually a problem, compaired to my heavy use of HDs, I can't say. But it seems pretty clear to me, that some wearing could be avoided by simply putting more information on the C drive, to avoid powering the other drives on. The services and apps are also things, I'm not sure of. Maybe I'm missing some education, but I'm pretty sure, I can get some answers (fx. here), without spending years on it.

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

There are basically two areas where you can remove unnecessary things:

1. startup programs


2. services

For each item in these areas you need to find out what it's doing, and if you need it. Disable it if you don't need it.

If you still hear your hard drives being accessed when you think they should not, use a program like Process Monitor to find what is accessing them.

I personally don't worry about hard drives. I know they have an average life span of about 10 years, and after that they need to be replaced. Making regular backups helps to avoid loss of data. The HD I use for backups is only connected when I do a backup.