xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi all, hopefully someone can help me.I'm trying to network my two PCs, one desktop and one laptop - both running Windows XP (one Home, one Professional). Both have network interface cards which are described as running normally (desktop has a VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adaptor, laptop has an Intel ® Pro/100 VE network connection card).Firstly I have connected the single network cable, and then run the 'Network Setup Wizard' on the desktop first as it is the one to which my broadband internet is connected, and run through all the options. I have then created a network setup disk and run it on the laptop, all without problem, and both computers have been restarted when prompted.Now though, I cannot access files on either when I look in the workgroup (and both computers have the same workgroup name). I have clicked on the network connections icon which states that there is a connection running at 100Mb p/second, and packets are being sent and received, but still I can't view the computers via the Network Places button?Basically, how do I get them to talk to each other? Is it a hardware compatibility problem or a software incompetence error? Any help gratefully received... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Try double clicking My Computer on each machine, right click the C drives and look at Sharing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hello and welcome to the forumI can't help you but I'm sure someone will be along soon who can. :welcome:Well - there we are - beaten to it. :D In the time I was writing my reply, you got an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi,Thanks for your quick reply BVW, I've done like you said but still there is nothing to view under the 'network' tab.Is there a way to manually configure the network?Cheers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Under My Network Places and View Workgroup Computers do both your machines show ?Do you have firewalls up which may be causing the problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 On the Desktop, under My Network Places it is completely blank, and the screen freezes if I choose View Workgroup Computers. On the laptop, My Network Places shows the laptop computer's shared documents, but nothing from the desktop.I have run a Network Diagnostics test on Windows which brought up this fail:00524291] WAN Miniport (IP) (FAILED) Caption = [00524291] WAN Miniport (IP) DatabasePath = %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc DefaultIPGateway = 213.249.223.67(Same Subnet) (PASSED)Pinging 213.249.223.67 with 32 bytes of data:Reply from 213.249.223.67: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0Reply from 213.249.223.67: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0Reply from 213.249.223.67: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0Reply from 213.249.223.67: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0Ping statistics for 213.249.223.67:Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Description = WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface DHCPEnabled = FALSE DNSEnabledForWINSResolution = FALSE DNSHostName = DESKTOP DNSServerSearchOrder (FAILED) 212.50.160.100 (FAILED)Pinging 212.50.160.100 with 32 bytes of data:Request timed out.Request timed out.Request timed out.Request timed out.Ping statistics for 212.50.160.100:Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss) 213.249.130.100 (PASSED)Pinging 213.249.130.100 with 32 bytes of data:Reply from 213.249.130.100: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=25Reply from 213.249.130.100: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=130Reply from 213.249.130.100: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=28Reply from 213.249.130.100: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=30Ping statistics for 213.249.130.100:Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 53msUnfortunately I'm not a programming whiz so that's just gibberish to me, all I can decipher is that for some reason they're not aware that they are connected! Any ideas?CheersPS. Also I have PC-cillin 2002 running on the desktop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Are you using a router?And are you using crossover or straight through cables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 As far as I know, I'm not using a router. And I'm just using a direct LAN cable, I don't need a hub as it's just the two machines I'm connecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 OK as bvw says are you using a firewall as in your log post you had a ping failure.DNSServerSearchOrder (FAILED)212.50.160.100 (FAILED)Pinging 212.50.160.100 with 32 bytes of data:Request timed out.Request timed out.Request timed out.Request timed out.Ping statistics for 212.50.160.100:Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 The desktop is running PC-cillin 2002 edition. Would i need to turn it off completely though as I don't feel safe running the internet without one? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Is their a separate option to view the firewall settings so you can see what IP addresses are in their Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 The usual causes of networking problems are the XP firewalls, you have to turn them off, except for the actual firewall to the internet, and as Trackrat says....using the wrong cable, for direct PC to PC connection you have to use Crossover cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpnetworking Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Yep, I've added the one that failed last time (212.50.160.100) to the safe list, turned off Windows firewall and run the diagnosis again, still got the same fail...BVW - how do I know whether the cable I've got is a crossover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 BVW - how do I know whether the cable I've got is a crossover?Well, with mine it's written on the box :) I have CAT5e Crossover for direct PC to PC connection and also I have CAT5e networking cable which I use through the hub.It's very difficult to spot any difference I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvw Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 ps....this is Microsoft's tutorial on networking which you may find helpful.http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=813936 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Make sure you have cross over.To do a quick self check, flip the two plugs with the pins facing you. Look at the wires inside each, and if the one looks like there are 4 wires "crossed" it's cross over. If the wires are exactly the same, it's straight through, and if they are reversed. It's rollover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 I made some fairly lenghthy posts a while ago about how to check what type of cable you have. Please see this linkhttp://www.windowsforum.org/forum/index.ph...indpost&p=18616I would also suggest reading the entire thread as it is relevant.Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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