AlanHo Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Thank you for your sympathy about the Barry manilow torture.Flash harry - the Worlds greatest conductor - EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces wild Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5322130.stmWar is not a pretty thing. The torture I endorse does no physical harm and is mainly pschological.So where was your outrage when the torture tactics used by Saddam (rape, dipping in hot oil, amputation.....) were found out?Whoever suggested that war WAS a pretty thing? Certainly not me.The concept that psychological torture is somehow acceptable is an anathema to me and I am not a Christian. I am outraged by Saddam's activities and I supported the action in removing him. Saddam was a classic situation of a man in power using that power wrongly and in contravention of international law. The US and the UK and many others were right, in my view, to intervene, just as they are wrong if they condone torture.Thos.I agree 100% with this statement. I too was appalled at the antics of Saddam and his regime. I was also appalled at whet happened in the former Yugoslavia. I am appalled at whet the United Nations is allowing in Darfor. None of this make torture acceptable. It just goes to show what both Muslims and Christians will accept doesn't it. It appears to me that most of the objectors to this barbarism are atheists. :lol: It is not a matter of religious beliefs. It is a belief on how strong you think the terrorists are a threat to you, your family and your friends. Their beliefs and goals are well documented. Ignore them if you want but those protecting your freedoms choose not to. B) I provided proof where mild psychological torture yielded tremendous information that saved thousands of lives. I have also yet to see where all prisoners are subject to this psychological torture as some infer. Those high in the food chain are the targets. Lastly, I do not condone the idiocy at Abu Grahib but to think that putting a prisoners underwear on his head is akin to terrorism is......................ridiculous. :P BTW: I have not read any comments about my comments regarding the politicization of the BBC article referenced by andsome and I understand why........it is quite obvious. ;) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 DW. What about the hypothetical case that I mentioned regarding your family? Are they aware that you would happily condone torture in order to obtain a false confession from them?Surely it is obvious that by far the largest number of confessions obtained under torture of any degree must be false, they certainly would be in my case, due to my religious conviction, namely the fact that I am a very devout coward.Yes we are all aware that the BBC has become very left of centre, but the torture report is world wide on behalf of the World service, and there are several backup reports online.The poll was done by pollster GlobeScan, together with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland in the United States, for the BBC World Service. See here from an Austrailian site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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