Guest northamuk Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Idi Amin's family have asked that he be buried in Uganda when he dies (should be pretty soon since he is now in a coma).This madman butchered his own people and ate some of them. Unfortunately his victims can't be asked for their opinion of this. :angry:Oh, BTW, he has been living in comparative splendour in Saudi Arabia for the last 24 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 He's taken too long to get to this stage :( Some of his family are still living and working in Uganda, apparently he was never officially exiled :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 I wonder what the Saudi's got out of it for his sanctuary ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhat Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 My Grandad will be partying in his armchair - he fought something in johanesburg or something against this guy? He's never really talked about it :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shirley_Crabtree Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Idi Amin is/was a complete bastard.If I could I would piss on his grave.Cheers.Shirl.Me pisses on the bastards grave....piss pissAhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 After you shirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nellie2 Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Why was that man never caught and tried for what he did??I'm too much of a lady to go tinkling on anyones grave but I agree with the sentiment in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moon Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Monster. Complete failure of justice that he's still alive. Ranks with Pol Pot. Onwards and upwards. Death to Mugabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Monster. Complete failure of justice that he's still alive. Ranks with Pol Pot. Onwards and upwards. Death to Mugabe.Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 For the younger amounst usIdi Amin Dada OumeeAKA 'Big Daddy', AKA 'Conqueror of the British Empire', AKA 'Butcher of Africa'. Country: Uganda. Kill tally: 100,000-500,000 (most sources say 300,000). Background: The British government declares Uganda its protectorate in 1894. Surrounding kingdoms are incorporated, with the borders becoming fixed in 1914. Independence is achieved peacefully in 1962 but rising tensions between the country's different ethnic groups see prime minister Milton Obote impose a new republican constitution establishing himself as president and abolishing all the country's kingdoms. Ethnic tensions continue to rise. Idi Amin seizes power in a coup in January 1971. Mini biography: Born in 1924 or 1925 into the Kakwa tribe in Koboko, near Arua in the northwest corner of Uganda, close to the borders with Congo and Sudan. 1946 - Amin joins the King's African Rifles of the British colonial army, serving in the British action against the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya (1952-56). He rises to the rank of lieutenant, becoming one of only two native Ugandans to be commissioned during British rule. In 1951 he becomes the heavyweight boxing champion of Uganda, holding the title until 1960. The authorities become concerned about Amin when he is accused of torture. 1962 - Uganda achieves independence from Britain. Amin is a supporter of Milton Obote, the new nation's prime minister. Obote overlooks the allegations of torture against Amin, promoting him to captain by 1963 and to colonel and deputy commander of the army in 1964. 1966 - Amin backs Obote when a financial scandal and opposition from the kingdom of Buganda causes the prime minister to suspend the constitution. Obote imposes a new republican constitution establishing himself as president and abolishing all the country's kingdoms. Amin is appointed chief of the army and air force, serving in the position until 1970. He begins to build a support base in the army by recruiting from his own Kakwa tribe. His relations with Obote start to sour. 1970 - The relationship deteriorates further following the murder of Amin's sole rival among senior army officers. Obote removes Amin from his command position late in the year and places him in an administrative role. 1971 - Amin discovers that Obote intends to arrest him on charges of misappropriating millions of dollars of military funds. On 25 January, while Obote is out of the country, Amin stages a coup. He is declared president and chief of the armed forces. Almost immediately he initiates mass executions of troops he believes to be loyal to Obote. Amin becomes field marshal in 1975 and life president in 1976. He expels the country's 50,000 Indians and Pakistanis in 1972, challenges Britain and the United States, breaks relations with Israel, and supports Libya and the Palestinians, becoming personally involved when Palestinians hijack a plane and order it fly to Entebbe in Ugandan. Domestically, Amin launches a campaign of persecution against rival tribes, murdering between 100,000 and 500,000 (most sources say 300,000). The size of the army is increased. Military tribunals are placed above the system of civil law, soldiers are appointed to top government posts, and civilian cabinet ministers are informed that they will be subject to military discipline. The country's economy begins to collapse. 1978 - In an attempt to divert attention from Uganda's internal problems, Amin launches an attack on Tanzania, a neighbouring country to the south, in October. Tanzanian troops, assisted by armed Ugandan exiles, quickly put Amin's demoralised army to flight and counter-invade. 1979 - The invading Tanzanian forces take Kampala, Uganda's capital, on 11 April. Amin, a Moslem, flees, spending almost a decade in Libya and Iraq before finally settling in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi's provide him with a monthly stipend of about US$1,400. He leads a comfortable life and has four wives. 1989 - He attempts to return to Uganda but is identified at Kinshasa, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo), and forced to return to Saudi Arabia. 2001 - Amin remains at large in Saudi Arabia, although it is reported that he wishes to return to Uganda. He continues to be popular in his home province and begins to fund the rebuilding of family properties destroyed by the Tanzanian troops who expelled him in 1979. The Ugandan government says that Amin is free to return but would have to "answer for his sins" and would be dealt with according to the law. Amin's 43 children are able to travel to and from Uganda, and several of them live there permanently. 2003 - On 20 July Amin is reported to be close to death, lying in a coma in the King Faisal specialist hospital in Jeddah, where he has been receiving treatment for hypertension and general fatigue for three months. Comment: By all accounts ill-educated, if not illiterate, and a buffoon, Amin would be a joke if his legacy wasn't so cruel. But perhaps it is not his villainy that is only to blame for the havoc that was wrought in Uganda. While there is a lot of history to Uganda, and to all the other countries on the African continent, it's pretty well guaranteed that wherever there was a colonial administration there is now a can of worms. Africa has suffered more than any other continent from its colonial past, which has breed Ugandas and Rawandas and South Africas and Zimbabwes and greed and corruption and deathUgandaThe world according to Idi AminOn liberty In communist countries you do not feel free to talk, there is one spy for every three people. Not here. No one is afraid here. It's like Uganda girls. I tell them to be proud, not shy. It's no good taking a girl to bed if she is shy. Do you get my point? On miscegenation Ugandan women should not carry on with white men. Black men are stronger than whites. This is why white girls run after black men. To Nixon after cuts in US aid to Uganda My dear brother, it is quite true that you have enough problems on your plate, and it is surprising you have the zeal to add fresh ones. At this moment you are uncomfortably sandwiched in that uncomfortable affair [Watergate], I ask almighty God to solve your problems. We Ugandans hope that the great United States of America does not continue to use its enormous resources, especially its military might, to destroy human life on earth. On gender and productivity Women should not sleep while men are working. Even prostitutes can do some work, reporting subversives. To Lord Snowdon after his split with Princess Margaret Your experience will be a lesson to all of us men to be careful not to marry ladies in high positions. On Middle Eastern affairs Arab victory in the war with Israel is inevitable and prime minister of Israel Mrs Golda Meir's only recourse is to tuck up her knickers and run away in the direction of New York and Washington. On security and development Don't disturb the people of Uganda at night by running about shooting. Uganda is going at supersonic speed and the people must not unnecessarily be made to panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moon Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Good read, tankus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 When I used to work in Wembley almost 20 years ago, It surprised me that most of my Asian (Hindu) friends families, had actually come from Uganda and not India . Idi had an ethnic purge without thinking what the consequences would be to the Ugandan economy..... They all left in considerable distress taking their economic abilities and cash with them ....The original Indian corner shop ,open all hours run by an extended family in NW London , you may be surprised to find,more than likely , are run by these ex-Ugandan refugees.......... They told me some nasty stories.............When there were occasional brown (electrical) outs in Kampala , it was thought that it was caused by Idi's mass electrocutions , he liked to watch them dance ,the bodies were then chucked in the river for all to see the following day...... As a warning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter e Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Horrible git, Amin. It's a constant source of annoyance to me, that beggars like Amin seem to get away with their disgusting crimes. There's something wrong with a world where such things happen. Over 200 MPs recently signed a petition for our Government to take action to help those terrorists held in Cuba by the Americans. In contrast, when Amin was in power, the bloody MPs at the time didn't sign a petition to urge the Goverment to do something about that monster. The Goverment at the time were busy selling Amin police and military equipment. I wrote a letter to my MP imploring him to get up in the commons and open his stupid mouth and tell the Government to do something to stop the monster. Should have saved myself the trouble for all the notice he took. The victim counts for nothing but the beggars in power and the lawyers fall over themselves to help the criminal.Got our priorities wrong, I reckon. Rant over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Nice to see that Sadamm's sons have been found and killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBH1 Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 yep, an excellent read - - - though vaguely remember tv footage on the news of these people getting off the plane - -and most had only the clothes they arrived in. I guess the world stood by at that time as they had no oil - - -a good read indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northamuk Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 The world is now a (slightly) better place with the demise of this murderous madman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shirley_Crabtree Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 I'll piss on this bastards grave yet again....Piss Piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 If you had done it on him while he was alive , shirl , then I'd be impressed....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 The Times onlineOwen wanted Amin assassinated Britain's Lord Owen, Foreign Secretary from 1976 to 1979, has revealed that he once raised the prospect of having Idi Amin assassinated. The then Labour government was trying to distance itself from Amin and at one point Lord Owen floated the idea of having the dictator assassinated. Lord Owen told BBC Radio 4's PM programme: "I actually, at one stage, did raise the issue of assassination and it was not just frowned on but looked on as an outrageous suggestion." Its funny what a few years do a Government.....Just a decade later Thatcher authorises the use of USA's UK air bases to go ahead and attempt to kill Ghadafi , by bombing the crap out of one of his homes (they did manage to kill a few of his relatives)Yet we went to war against the Argentinians for invading British soil , Yet not one bomb or bullet was let off ,in Argentina , Galtieri lived on...! B'liar authorises the assassination of Hussein , regardless of how many men women and children (sorry..... collateral damage) it takes to do it......I wonder what next...?Steve Bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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