brjoon1021 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I use Linux and Windows on my computer so I have a separate 40 GB disk that is FAT32 so that I can have a common storage disk for MP3s, pictures, documents and the like. It is a candidate for bad defragmentation as I will be writing and deleting often, sometimes small files. I am looking for my best option for keeping that disk healthy.1. What is the best free application that you know of?2. Which paid version do you think is the best and is it that much better than the freebie?Thanks,B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I use Linux and Windows on my computer so I have a separate 40 GB disk that is FAT32 so that I can have a common storage disk for MP3s, pictures, documents and the like. It is a candidate for bad defragmentation as I will be writing and deleting often, sometimes small files. I am looking for my best option for keeping that disk healthy.1. What is the best free application that you know of?2. Which paid version do you think is the best and is it that much better than the freebie?Thanks,B.In all my versions of Windows there has be a defrag facility built in to the Accessories section, and as far as I am aware Linux is supposed not to need defragging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason.b.c Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Power DefragmenterWhat linux system do you use..?Yea , linux does not need defraging because it does not become fragmented.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan2273 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 This is the one I use, it is free and does a good job.http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/As Jason says Linux does not need defragmenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 As Jason says Linux does not need defragmenting.How come as surely the data gets scrambled in normal use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 As Jason says Linux does not need defragmenting.How come as surely the data gets scrambled in normal use? To put it simply, Linux cleans up after itself. M$ can't be bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan2273 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 The Microsoft filesystem tries to put all files as close to the start of the hard drive as it can, thus it constantly fragments files when they grow larger and there's no free space available. The Linux filesystem scatters files all over the disk so there's plenty of free space if the file's size changes. It can also re-arrange files on-the-fly, since it has plenty of empty space to shuffle around. Defragging the Microsoft filesystem is a more intensive process and not really practical to run during normal use.Fragmentation thus only becomes an issue on the Linux type of system when a disk is so full that there just aren't any gaps a large file can be put into without splitting it up. So long as the disk is less than about 80% full, this is unlikely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason.b.c Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Fragmentation in a linux system never goes ( or should never ) above 5%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I use Linux and Windows on my computer so I have a separate 40 GB disk that is FAT32 so that I can have a common storage disk for MP3s, pictures, documents and the like. It is a candidate for bad defragmentation as I will be writing and deleting often, sometimes small files. I am looking for my best option for keeping that disk healthy.1. What is the best free application that you know of?2. Which paid version do you think is the best and is it that much better than the freebie?Thanks,B.Diskeeper do a free and in adition a superb paid for defragmenter.Diskeeper 2007.Diskeeper Lite. (FREE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 The Microsoft filesystem tries to put all files as close to the start of the hard drive as it can, thus it constantly fragments files when they grow larger and there's no free space available. The Linux filesystem scatters files all over the disk so there's plenty of free space if the file's size changes. It can also re-arrange files on-the-fly, since it has plenty of empty space to shuffle around. Defragging the Microsoft filesystem is a more intensive process and not really practical to run during normal use.Fragmentation thus only becomes an issue on the Linux type of system when a disk is so full that there just aren't any gaps a large file can be put into without splitting it up. So long as the disk is less than about 80% full, this is unlikely to happen.I can see that the Linux system is more efficient and it's a wonder that Microsoft haven't introduced a similar system in Vista! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I can see that the Linux system is more efficient and it's a wonder that Microsoft haven't introduced a similar system in Vista!It's odd really when you consider that the gospel according to St. Bill says that it was all nicked from him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason.b.c Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 The Microsoft filesystem tries to put all files as close to the start of the hard drive as it can, thus it constantly fragments files when they grow larger and there's no free space available. The Linux filesystem scatters files all over the disk so there's plenty of free space if the file's size changes. It can also re-arrange files on-the-fly, since it has plenty of empty space to shuffle around. Defragging the Microsoft filesystem is a more intensive process and not really practical to run during normal use.Fragmentation thus only becomes an issue on the Linux type of system when a disk is so full that there just aren't any gaps a large file can be put into without splitting it up. So long as the disk is less than about 80% full, this is unlikely to happen.I can see that the Linux system is more efficient and it's a wonder that Microsoft haven't introduced a similar system in Vista!Because Linux dosen't use NTFS...Starting with EXT2/3 <== ( better than NTFS ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreper Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 maybe Microsoft will introduce a new filesystem in their new OS: Windows Vienna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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