Does one need a reason for stuff ?

[Belatucadrus]

 

I know andsome will hate it, I just happen to think it's nice so I'm sharing.

[andsome]

Another one I've never heard of,where do you find them? Not too bad though,I've heard worse.

[Belatucadrus]

I'm a late arriver to the world of Youtube, but having found it I keep delving around and finding stuff that's either outlandish , interesting or borderline brilliant. In common with much of the internet there's also a load of complete cobblers, so a degree of personal discretion is necessary.

 

You may find this has a few bits of interest to you.

 

 *****  Click Here for Mahler *****

[catgate]

That was interesting, but do you have any Mahler ???

[andsome]

I'll find you some later.

[Belatucadrus]

3 hours ago, catgate said:

That was interesting, but do you have any Mahler ???

 

look at the click here link on post 3, already there.

[andsome]

If you can spare six minutes just watch and listen to this.  I was lucky enough to attend the very concert in Symphony Hall, Birmingham. The whole ensemble was then taken by Simon Rattle to London for the proms in the Albert Hall.  When comparing this to pop, just note the orchestration.  The National youth orchestra of Great Britain are one of the finest orchestras in this country.  There were over 600 performers that night including choires, orchestra and soloists.  Surely you must agree that this is a far richer and more stirring sound than pop.

 

 

[andsome]

I am not ashamed to admit that music like that always causes me to shed a tear, the sheer emotion is overwhelming.

[andsome]

Here is another eight minutes of tear jerking music.  If this does not stir you I feel sorry for you , your lives are very lacking,

 

 

[Belatucadrus]

I heartily dislike the term "Pop" when applied to music, it's just an abbreviation of the word Popular. My dad was as guilty as any of dismissing stuff I liked and he didn't as Pop, handily ignoring the fact that the big band Jazz and many of his favourite classical pieces were the pop music of their day . I have the same problem with people who say they don't like Classical or Jazz, particularly when you ask them to be more specific and realise that they couldn't tell the difference between Carl Orfe and Edward Elgar or Count Basie and Thelonias Monk. The scope covered by these generic terms is enormous and most people with an open mind should be able to find stuff they like.

Lets take a specific example, it's a tune by Johnny Cash the country and western singer, not an artist or a genre that usually appeal to me, this one however is quite moving particularly when you realise he had a turbulent life and was just a few months away from his own death.

 

 

[andsome]

I accept the points that you have raised. I can get enjoyment out of Cash's performances, but no way can they move me like composers like Mahler, Shostakovich,Sibelius,Tchaikovsky,and many others. Their music to me is far more complex and satisfying. I am also very keen on big band,traditional jazz,some more modern jazz,opera,and the popular singers of years gone by,such as The Carpenters,Shirley Bassey,etc etc. I have very wide tastes. I just cannot stand gobbledygook like rapping or whatever it is called,or boy or girl so called bands.

[Belatucadrus]

I think the problems that many of the Yoof of today have with older styles of music is that anything complicated tends to require you pay attention rather than just let it buzz away like white noise in the background, this can cause cranial overheating followed by brain implosion. You get much the same effect if you take away their smartphones, after about half an hour they start chewing their fingernails and gibbering to themselves whilst walking slowly in ever decreasing circles. Ye no wot ar meen innit ?

[andsome]

I can't help but wonder exactly what they are doing,when they stare intently at their phones while their fingers twitch violently. They can't be typing surely. In London We Are amazed at the vast number of people walking round oblivious to their surroundings,with wires hanging from their ears. If they are listening to a mindless noise,what exactly are their fingers doing?

[Belatucadrus]

Pocket billiards ?

[andsome]

2 hours ago, Belatucadrus said:

Pocket billiards ?

No,twitching about on their phones,as I said,I doubt very much that they are typing

[AlanHo]

[Belatucadrus]

Only one ?

[catgate]

I think the best music is some of the "Trad Jazz" emanating from New Orleans in the thirties. There were a couple of British Trad Bands in Fifties (no not Aker Bilk) who got near but were not as good.

[Belatucadrus]

Oi don't knock the Bilkmeister

[andsome]

8 hours ago, Belatucadrus said:

Only one ?

Thats just what I thought.

[catgate]

He was a a very competent saxophonist, but he had an unforgettable style of his own that was not  really New Orleans style.

[andsome]

31 minutes ago, catgate said:

He was a a very competent saxophonist, but he had an unforgettable style of his own that was not  really New Orleans style.

 

Bernard Stanley "Acker" Bilk, MBE (28 January 1929 – 2 November 2014) was an English clarinettist and vocalist known for his appearance – goatee, bowler hat and striped waistcoat – and breathy, vibrato-rich, lower-register clarinet style.

 

Taken from here.     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acker_Bilk

 

[Belatucadrus]

1 hour ago, catgate said:

He was a a very competent saxophonist, but he had an unforgettable style of his own that was not  really New Orleans style.

 

Fair enough most UK jazz players of the time had their own slant on the original which I think was a good thing, slavish emulation when culturally inappropriate  gets my goat. Modern equivalent white kids using Jamaican patois in feeble attempt to look cool, just pathetic.

[catgate]

Yes it was a clarinet he played, silly me. The saxophone is sacrilege in trad. circles.

One thing he definitely was not, was a vocalist.

[Belatucadrus]

Difficult to sing and blow at the same time.

 

Interesting thought, my mind works in mysterious ways and your transposition of Clarinet & Saxophone got me wondering " Is there any such thing as a Clariphone or a Saxonet " and the answer to both is yes .