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Hey what happend to the clone CD topic, im not sure why it was "moved" r where to. It is perfectly legalto make back up copies of software you own so y was it "moved". Im sue its becuase ppl see the word copy and game in the same sentance they think oh god this isnt legal, but like ive said if you own the game you can make a back up copy of it, its your right.

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Rebel I TOLD you why it was going. Plus it is NOT legal (in the UK) to make backup copies. Let's not go the way of the Forum with multi thousand members.

Wen was this?

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Computer games users enjoy a special privilege under the existing copyright law. According to Section 50(A) of the 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act, legal purchasers of computer games are explicitly permitted to make a backup copy of their purchase. (Interestingly, the rule specifically applies to computer games. For no adequately-explained reason, purchasers of music CDs or DVD movies are not granted the same rights to protect their investment. The only rational explanation your reporter can come up with for this odd anomaly is that the law recognises that (a) computer software is overpriced in comparison to other leisure media, and (B) the games industry is so fragile, and hostile towards backwards-compatibility, that your chances of being able to obtain a legal replacement for a duff disc after anything more than a couple of years are so remote as to require legal remedy.)

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This paragraph is below the one rebel posted:

This section of the law has NOT been changed by the CRRA. You are still entitled by UK law to make a backup copy of any piece of software you buy legally. Where things start to get interesting, though, is in Section 296Z of the new law. Section 296 makes it an offence to do anything at all which is designed to circumvent any piece of copyright protection technology put in place by the manufacturers or distributors of any copyrighted work

So as far as I'm concerned the topic was correctly moved.

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Yes but it also says

Under the new UK copyright laws, any software publisher which implements any form of copy-protection on its discs will be breaking the law. Because it’s an offence, obviously, to deprive the consumer of any right which is explicitly granted to him in law. And if you implement copy protection which there is no legal way to circumvent (which, thanks to the CRRA, there now isn’t), then you are, obviously, depriving the consumer of the opportunity to exercise his legally-enshrined right to a backup. Which is illegal

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If anyone is interested in a definitive answer to this perennial question have a look at HMSO. Type "copyright" into the search box.

Personally I think that this subject should be banned from discussion in any forum - it ALWAYS produces loads of argument, bad feeling and bitterness but it never reaches a defined conclusion. :( :( :( :( :(

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We can all post pro/anti copy-write responses until the cows come home, if you agree with the idea then there are millions of sites out there to quote from...thing is they are cancelled out by the opposite view of those who say you can't. There has to be a time when if something looks like its on dodgy ground then WF should have the right to remove it.

http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032498.htm

The above is the most boring site in the world and the answer is probably there but I'm not looking....

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Well i wish to excerise my legal right as my above post points out, it is the Game producers who r braking the law by not letting us excerise r legal right.

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(B) publishes information intended to enable or assist persons to circumvent that form of copy-protection

From section 296 of the copyright act

WF could be held responsible for any posts that refer to circumventing copy protection.

So no posts please on circumventing copy protection.

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