moon Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Me mate wants me to build him a 64bit machine. He's heavily into graphics, Photoshop CS etc. I'm going the AMD 32bit compatible route. Any advice appreciated with regard to mobo/cpu and video card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 moon you have built 1 computer that took months and the help of the whole forum and you now think your a computer builder capable of building a 64bit machine,your also a aussie so please if its really your mate dont build it and let a proper british computer builder do it.only kidding moon :P why dont you look at craigs signature for what hes used for his 64bit machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 You want the budget AMD processor or it's big brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 moon you have built 1 computer that took months and the help of the whole forum and you now think your a computer builder capable of building a 64bit machineYou think I'm being over-ambitious ? What if I went for the 63bit instead ?Big bro, powerless. Fastest possible. :DEdit; Craig runs an Intel, doesn't he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 from Craig's signature:Computer Build AMD Athlon 64 3200+ ProcessorCrucial 1GB ECC Registered PC3200 DDR400 RAMMSI K8T Neo-FIS2R MotherboardMaxtor 160GB ATA133 Hard DriveMaxtor 200GB SATA Hard DrivePowerColor 9800XT 256MB Radeon Graphics Card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Cheers, expertec, I'll spin around some prices. Are the new AMD's , released last Tuesday, just for servers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 The AMD Athlon 64's are the budget ones...The FX range are the flagships for the home desktop...But they'll cost you.AMD Athlon™ 64 FX Recommended MotherboardsAMD Athlon™ 64 Recommended MotherboardsAs for Video card...Well you would have to get the newer Nvidia cards [6800] and the ATI card [X800]. Which will soon become available...HOWEVER!There is apparently a socket 939 [thinks] CPU from AMD coming which is something to wait for so i'm told, so maybe you should wait to see what becomes of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Ta. I'm currently drawn to;GIGABYTE "GA-K8NNXP" nForce3 150 Motherboard Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU AMD Athlon64 3400 64bit 754Pin CPU I've built 4 machines now, all with Gigabyte mobos ( nForce2) , and I'm very pleased with them. The Athlon 64 3400 is around £300 and that's about all he can muster for a CPU. He's looking at a grand without the monitor so that leaves a good wedge for a grahics card. Beantech Igloo case again ( brill) and I'll have to find a CPU fan that can do the job. The first retail XP 2700 that I used ran hot with the AMD fan provided.Edit; This looks tasty;http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/venus/si/a1772.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Hmmm. Craig's board is rated very fast with an Athlon 64. Anybody had experience with a Gigabyte nForce 3 board ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Blimey ! Nobody run an nForce 3 board ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 I run nForce2, are they similar in any ways??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 'tis true, like you, I already run an nForce 2 too. Like me, experience of an nForce 3 is desirable to thee. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intratech Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Yes Moon.. I have exprience with it. It's a really good board if you'll be running at stock setting. Then again if you're gonna be running at stock settings then i'd recommend getting a board based on the K8T 800 core logic since there are slightly better performers. If your friend is inclined to wait a little bit until june then AMD will be releasing it's 939 Pin Athlon64 FX CPU that uses unbuffered ram and a dual channel memory controller along with a MoBo based on the K8T 800 PRO core logic. Don't get me wrong or anything.. there is nothing wrong with the nVidia nForce 3 core logic... the VIA chipset just has slightly better performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ellas Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 this is the board you want moon http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum....dbbc96113942ac0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 VIA's K8T chipsets for the 64 bit processors are faster and much more reliable then the nforce3 boards. http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_pr...44oBmP0-K7my6Dfhttp://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_pr...44oBmP0-K7my6Dfhttp://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_pr...44oBmP0-K7my6Df Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted May 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Thankyou, Intratech, ellas and Bruce. All grist for the mill. I'll be back. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 There is apparently a socket 939 [thinks] CPU from AMD coming which is something to wait for so i'm told, so maybe you should wait to see what becomes of that.Yep, the sockets are due for a change soon.The current 64bit socket will still be supported, but only 32bit chips will be made in the future for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Has PCI express been mentioned yet?(all i need to say :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted July 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Any news on the Socket 939 yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 OK, I've seen them for sale on eBuyer. 939 pin Newcastle 3800+ at over five hundred quid. That would definitely make the piggy bank turn its toes up. Any cheaper sources ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Probably, but not by much.It's new technology and it's going to cost a pretty penny. If you wait a year or even 6 months, it will probably cost half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Nah, I ain't ever going to be cutting edge. :D The 939 has knocked the 754 price down so I'll content myself with one of those in the interim. This looks more like my price rangehttp://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=62050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted July 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Just clarify for me, somebody ? AMD 64bit cpu's are backward-compatible with 32bit operating systems, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted July 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Ta. I know it seemed a daft question but there's some prat on eBuyer claiming that 64bit AMD's won't run XP . Something like that shakes one's confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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