Sir Radfordin Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I know there have been a few posts recently about fuel prices and seeing something on the BBC's website about predictions about the price at the pump rising made me wonder......."What will the price rise to before you seriously consider not driving?"I don't feel I use my car that much and only for journeys that it is only practicle to travel by car. However should the price rise to around the 90p/ltr mark the inconvenience of public transport may start to look more viable. On a tank of fuel I'd be paying something like £5 extra than I was two weeks ago.Or is it a case that you've got the car, so you will just carry on paying the price at the pump? If thats the case for all of us the price will continue to rise because laws of economics dicate that supply and demand determine price. There is a finate amount of fuel available and so if demand continues to rise then so will the price. There must become a point where people decide it isn't worth buying - but where will that point be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northamuk Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 No matter what price per litre you pay, the government will still be siphoning off 78% in tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Actually, Sir Rad, I feel that in this case there will come a point when the general public will have had enough and finally revolt against the government.It is perhaps due to Blair's interference in the Middle East, which has caused this latest round of petrol hikes, so it is high time his government took responsibility and dropped the extortionate rates of tax they impose on whatever they feel they can get away with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwp Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I need my car to get to work ( shifts ) so i will pay the going rate probablya quid a ltr by xmas. buit i work for shell so what the hell. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I've always been under the impression that the Govt. push prices up in an attempt to drive people off the road and onto public transport. Something they so far seem to have failed to do.I don't care how much of the pump price is tax, I still have to pay it. Prices were about 85p when the fuel protests happened in 2000 - can't believe I've been all the way through Uni since then! With an additional 2p promised on fuel duty in Sept you do wonder how long the government will hang onto this. With elections taking place next week seems a bit late to be trying to win votes with it, and once the election is over surely they will (as now) do what they like?There is sense in the argument for the pump price to be fixed and as the cost of fuel rises so that tax falls and vice versa. Surely that would help lead to a more stable economy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilch Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I personally will have to pay the prices as if i dont, i am screwed for the 60mile journey to and from work each day.If there was a fuel protest like before though then i wouldnt be able to work in the first place as work would have no petrol to put into the quads to run them, thus no point in opening.... plus other staff wont be able to get in due to the locality of where i work.I hope people do strike, but i do hope they do it but still allow some places to sell petrol to people that need it. Nurses, Doctors, Police, Ambulance and Fire etc, and i know that as in the last protest it was a struggle for my mum, a commuinity nurse, to find places that had petrol for sale. But the only problem for me is if a strike does happen i am stuck in the middle of devon in a campsite, and although there is a shop, would they be able to get food in due to locality and being the nearest spar is about 6 miles away and nearest supermarket is over 15 miles away, it certainly would cause me a few head aches.But as people where saying, this is certainly going to cause problems with the election's... although i still wont vote as i feel there is no canditates that appeal to my age group and the previous government has done very little to help....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I don't mind using public transport... but it is expensive and unreliable. :( I have to travel because of my work, my car gets me there and gets me back and gets me to the places I need to be during the course of the day. I'm stuck really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Radfordin Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 "Mr However, economists point out that even after the latest jump in prices, oil remains far cheaper than it was in the late 1970s after the effects of inflation are stripped out"Dumbing down at the BBC surely not?http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3768805.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Round here where I live we have little option but to pay. If we want to visit relatives in Birmingham it take twenty minutes by car. The same journey by public transport take well one hour, and the buses are very few and far between. To travel ten miles or so in the winter to play indoor bowls takes me about twenty minutes all in. To do this journey by public transport would be a virtual impossibility and would involve more than one change of bus. Travel to away bowls matches in the summer take little or no time by car, but again could take up to several hours by bus. Thank goodness I don't have to travel to work in rush hours these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Personally I do not care what price petrol/diesel rises to, because I am sure that we will all only be too pleased to contribute taxes, so that our wonderful, caring, thoughtful, intelligent Leader can have all his fuel payed for by us and thereby save him from coming into contact with the reality of the siuations that he causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Less critical for Londoners as a large number commute due to outrageous parking fee's and congestion charges.......The worst hit are people in small towns and rural areas , where there is little or no public transport ..But the tax issue is the key... Its an easy way of stealth taxing , due to the amount of money brought in , I doubt any political party would bring it down .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 But the tax issue is the key... Its an easy way of stealth taxing , due to the amount of money brought in , I doubt any political party would bring it down ....Therein lies the rub. Every succesive government since the end of WWII have felt it necessary to "buy" the punters vote by handing back to them, in one diguised form or another, the money that they have only just stolen from them under some pretext or other. The post war labour government's "care from cradle to grave" set the seal on a system of phoney "concern", to the extent that thousands have been born into it and have died within it without realising the fact that they would have been far better provided for by the (reasonably honest) insurance systems etc. which existed prior to 1945. Each succesive government has singularly failed to explain that each individual has not only to support himself and his family through his own efforts, but has, at the same time, to support the leperous parasites, called politicians, who simply live like royalty on the efforts of the ordinary hardworking citizen.The system can not and will not change until the politicians are ousted and the government of the country is passed to the people of the country (who do not start wars, create unemployment, send armies to go and help "good buddies", create wasteful monuments to their ineptitude etc. and waste untold billions of pounds trying to buy national and international popularity.)Oh dear ..I'm off on the path again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northamuk Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 If the government was a private company they might find themselves answering to the Monopolies Commission (if it still exists), price fixing on the scale that they employ with petrol would be classed as an illegal rip-off. Without Tax and duty a litre of petrol would cost about 22 Pence even with the recent price hikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 You have to wonder what would have happened to this country if the huge N. Sea gas and oil reserves had not been found or existed ......Scary thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 buy a bike :) are use public transport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Howard signals support for fuel protestsnot one to miss a trick ....eh ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northamuk Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Notice he's only suggesting not implementing the additional 2 pence per litre, got an eye on keeping the 78% in case he comes to power? Darling Alistair continues to blame OPEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yepbreaking news ....the price of a barrel of oil , has just droppedCrude oil futures prices ended sharply lower on the New York Mercantile Exchange after OPEC indicated that it would raise its oil output. The near-month contract for the benchmark grade fell two dollars and 37 cents -- to 39 dollars, 96 cents a barrel.Dow jones report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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