Dan12 Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 HiIf I use a system restore point in windows xp homwe will i need to back up work from now untill the last restore point or will the data be ok? just making sure before I use restore.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Data should be OK but, don't rely on it. I've had failures with System Restore not doing as it was supposed to do and I now use it occasionally as a convenience but never without knowing that if things go wrong, I have a backup to rely on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan12 Posted March 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Thanks for reply pops, think will just get into the habit of a backup for how lomg it takes.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek-Squad Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Just A heads That try not to do system restore if you dont have too. System restore sometimes can mess up your programs. You might not beable to uinstall some programs etc...So make sure that if your going to use system restore that its a emergency!Geek-Squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 I have used system restore many times and it has never changed anything in the "My Documents" folder.However - I have always updated my back-up before doing a restore - but in accordance with sod's law - it has never proved necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek-Squad Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Usally If I have A problem I just Use Safe Mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I have used system restore many times and it has never changed anything in the "My Documents" folder.However - I have always updated my back-up before doing a restore - but in accordance with sod's law - it has never proved necessary.It's never messed anything up for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 System restore failures that I've experienced are rare but they do happen. Perhaps it's because I have to maintain a number of machines that I've seen it more than the usual home user.One of the big problems with SR is that it sometimes decides to turn itself off so that when you want to use it, there are no (or very few) restore points available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces wild Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 One of the big problems with SR is that it sometimes decides to turn itself off so that when you want to use it, there are no (or very few) restore points available.That has happened to me. :angry: Thank goodness for regular backups to my external drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan12 Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Many thanks to all for your help will take heed of advise.cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadyassa Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Why are you doing a system restore ?. If it is to clear any gremlins, surely a backup will keep your gremlins or am I missing something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 You should also note that if any virus or spyware programs infect your computer, and system restore makes a restore point, your anti-virus will be unable to remove the virus. This is because the system restore folder is locked, even to Windows itself. The only way to remove the virus is to disable system restore, reboot, and enable it again.A full backup is a better idea, because a virus can be removed from the backup if you locate it in your current installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek-Squad Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Someone told me that if u bring your clock back when you caught a virus you will get it again. Ex: i got a virus at 4:00 I deleated it its now 5:00 I bring my clock to 4:00 The virus returns..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 If you make a restore point at 4:00 while you have a virus, delete the virus at 5:00 and restore your computer to 4:00, yes you will have the virus again. Changing your time settings will not produce the same results, and you will not be infected again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan12 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Thanks to all again for your informative posts.Its a friends pc os xp home. she rang me and said that for the last six weeks her pc has been very slow, and that she can be working away and then she will get a black screen and top right of the screen, message saying no signal in red text. This is all the information she gave me at the time.she has adaware , spybot, and a macfee firewall.Not sure if its a hard ware problem, does it sound like she has a problem with her graphics card?Idont have her system spec, and appreciate there is not much to go on.CheersShe also recieved error code messageInternal error code(04504)Error Signature.. bc code:9cbc ti:00000000bc p2:80540370bc p3:a2000000bc p4:84010400OSVer:5_1_2600sp:2_0product:768_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 A "no signal" message can occur when there is no input to the monitor due to the cable being loose. Check that the cables to the monitor are fully pushed home and held in place by the screws.Another thing is the graphics card overheating and shutting itself down. If it is fitted with a fan, ensure that is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan12 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 The above error codes may be uppercase I just put them in lowercase as i wrote them down after speaking to her, not sure if that helps though.My thread on system restore was a thought as to whether it could help her situation, but not sure with her getting the black screen, so holding off doing that.thanksThanks pops will check those points out with her.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 You should also note that if any virus or spyware programs infect your computer, and system restore makes a restore point, your anti-virus will be unable to remove the virus. This is because the system restore folder is locked, even to Windows itself.I would guess that the system restore folder would be unaccessible by third party software but not Windows itself.Is there a reason for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Your system restore folder is located at %root%\System Volume InformationIt can only be seen by showing protected system files and folders. You cannot access it, because it is a protected folder. The only way to access this is from safe mode, or the recovery console.The reason it is unaccessible is to keep users from messing around in the folder, and the reason a virus can infect it, is because Windows backs up certain files without knowing what they are. This means it just finds the files it needs and copies them, wheather they are infected, damaged, replaced by something else, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 The reason it is unaccessible is to keep users from messing around in the folder, and the reason a virus can infect it, is because Windows backs up certain files without knowing what they are. This means it just finds the files it needs and copies them, whether they are infected, damaged, replaced by something else, etc..So that's how malware can be found in system restore points.It can only be seen by showing protected system files and folders. You cannot access it, because it is a protected folder. The only way to access this is from safe mode, or the recovery console.Also when you restore your computer to an earlier time using the system restore option itself I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djohn Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Also a out of range signal will be seen on a TFT monitor if the user is trying to use the incorrect resolution. Worth checking out first before anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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