cozofdeath Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Having grown tired of one war, we're on the eve of another, complete with alliances, secret codes, and laser beams. No, not Iran -- it's the fight over the next generation of DVD devices. The real battle isn't between Sony (SNE ) and Microsoft (MSFT ) and their chosen formats, it's between the manufacturers and us -- the consumers, the ones who ultimately pay for it all. And the battle is over Digital Rights Management (DRM), because in addition to increased storage, these new disks are packed full of copy-protection functions, some of which impair our ability to use the content we pay for, the way we like and are legally entitled to.More info can be found at :Sourcehttp://www.businessweek.com/technology/con...n_id=bier_tcmjkPersonally, I believe they have gone to far. I agree with the author when he says there has got to be a better solution. These changes are going to affect everyone so they better make it right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Don't buy is the obvious answer. It won't be the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4may Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Wouldn't buy anything that restricts the way I use it.Anyway most of the films etc they produce at present seem to be rubish so I wouldn't buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Wouldn't buy anything that restricts the way I use it.Anyway most of the films etc they produce at present seem to be rubish so I wouldn't buy them.How true - I reckon on the quiet it is because all the producers etc these days seem to be Actors, and they remake old movies to copy the real thing. Here our 2 commercial channels seem to have the edge on movies that are moral, or show someone with a terrible disease or some such - as if all the people behaving badly on the News is not depressing enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 It gets worse, anyone buying or building a new computer with the latest Intel Core Duo CPU, it has a built in DRM called LaGrande.And to make matters worse the new AMD2 CPU's also have DRM built in and there's is called Presiro.So one way or another they will get you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4may Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 It gets worse, anyone buying or building a new computer with the latest Intel Core Duo CPU, it has a built in DRM called LaGrande.And to make matters worse the new AMD2 CPU's also have DRM built in and there's is called Presiro.So one way or another they will get you. So maybe we should stop upgrading our systems then. . We usualy have to do it just to run the latest O/S so OFF to Linux we go. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces wild Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 When will it stop? Just when you think you have the latest hardware it is reworked to 'new and improved'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 It gets worse, anyone buying or building a new computer with the latest Intel Core Duo CPU, it has a built in DRM called LaGrande.And to make matters worse the new AMD2 CPU's also have DRM built in and there's is called Presiro.So one way or another they will get you. So maybe we should stop upgrading our systems then. . We usualy have to do it just to run the latest O/S so OFF to Linux we go. :P Going to Linux will not help, as it is part of the processor coding.Still there is plenty of value still left in the mobo / CPU's that are about at the moment without going to the new cores of Intel & AMD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzman Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 But that processor only sees 1's and 0's. It's the OS that determines whether something is "legal" or not. That said, I've not heard of these DRM utilties inside of AMD's chips - I'll have to look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 When will it stop? Just when you think you have the latest hardware it is reworked to 'new and improved'. I never buy the "latest" of anything - especially when it comes to computers. If you buy the thing that was latest last week or last month you will get it at a very cheap rate compared with the most recent development, whether that is hardware or software.There are definite practical disadvantages in buying the "latest" - one of great importance and significance is that there is no on-the-road experience of the item so, inevitably there comes the updates, the patches, the tickling ups, the re-issues and sometimes in the case of hardware, recalls of the product.I am not mean, just realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 When will it stop? Just when you think you have the latest hardware it is reworked to 'new and improved'. I never buy the "latest" of anything - especially when it comes to computers. If you buy the thing that was latest last week or last month you will get it at a very cheap rate compared with the most recent development, whether that is hardware or software.There are definite practical disadvantages in buying the "latest" - one of great importance and significance is that there is no on-the-road experience of the item so, inevitably there comes the updates, the patches, the tickling ups, the re-issues and sometimes in the case of hardware, recalls of the product.I am not mean, just realistic.At the time I had this computer built, I seem to recall that the latest Pentium4 X 2.8 was about £100 dearer than the 2.4. Not all that much difference in the two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozofdeath Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Trackrat, you are right about the DRM on CPUs. Thanks for that reply, I am shocked to hear about this. I had to look up some of it and I found some very surprising stuff. If anyone want to know more about this are some good links I've run across.https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home (the group designing the standards for this stuff)http://www.againsttcpa.com/ (a group against it)http://www.research.ibm.com/gsal/tcpa/ (an IBM TCPA reseach site)http://www.cypherpunks.to/ (pdf/powerpoint about thus stuff)I've been into computers for a while now, I love figuring things out with them and learning anything I can about them but this just makes me want to freakin stop. These are some of the richest companies in the world worrying about money again and are willing to go through all of this bulls*** so certain home users like myself, that can't afford every little piece of software, are screwed. I'm just wondering how much further it will go. It seems these manufactures will be able to control the hole pc market, software, hardware, os, peripherals, pricing and yes even GNU systems like linux. I haven't read all the pages yet but is what I said right? What really does this mean for us home users? Anyone have one of these chips yet? What do you guys think of this??? ...and no I'm not crazy I just get a little excited sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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