Time for...........................

[deuces wild]

.....the US to drop out of the circus called the United Nations and demand that it be moved out the US.

What a useless money grabbing corrupt group. Their history, especially the last 2 days, validated that.

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

I haven't seen all the news in the last two days, so I am not sure what exactly you are referring to. However, one very good thing had come out of it; the visit of Thai prime minister Thaksin to the U.N. gave the Thai military a chance to get rid of that extremely corrupt leader.

Now if only the US armed forces would follow the good example of the Thai army...

[deuces wild]

I haven't seen all the news in the last two days, so I am not sure what exactly you are referring to. .

Read their statement and then come back with an opinion.

Chavez point blank called Bush a devil.

If you don't think that extremist Muslims want *You and your family* dead you better read the words of Ahmadinejad to the UN on 9-19-06. And his agenda has a 2 year time frame.

Look at the big picture Pat. ;)

BTW: Exactly how much did Kofi and his son make on the 'food for oil' scandal?

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

Read their statement and then come back with an opinion.

I have meanwhile read the RSS news (CNN & BBC).

Chavez point blank called Bush a devil.

I have found that one of the most refreshing statements in the past few years :P

If you don't think that extremist Muslims want *You and your family* dead you better read the words of Ahmadinejad to the UN on 9-19-06. And his agenda has a 2 year time frame.

You can hardly blame this on the U.N.

BTW: Exactly how much did Kofi and his son make on the 'food for oil' scandal?

Probably a lot less than the Haliburton execs from the war against Iraq.

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

You can hardly blame this on the U.N.

However, a lot of it can be blamed on the U.S. - there were a lot less extremist Muslims before the invasion of Iraq. And with all that's still going on there every day - murder, kidnap, rape, torture, imprisonment, public humiliation - you will inevitably create more extremists every day. And not only in Islamic countries, also in our Western society.

Also, Israel's recent invasion of Southern Lebanon - with the U.S. loudly applauding - gave the extremist cause another great boost.

[andsome]

Lowey said that "my colleagues in Congress need a wake-up call. The

United States has earned the reputation as the United Nations' number

one deadbeat and if my colleagues want to help restore our good name

and regain our influence in the UN, they need to join me today in

supporting immediate and full payment of our UN arrears."

They are probably withdrawing to avoid paying their back instalments.

US ,UN debt

[catgate]

Could all this be the prelude to a change of UN chief?

[deuces wild]

Lowey said that "my colleagues in Congress need a wake-up call. The

United States has earned the reputation as the United Nations' number

one deadbeat and if my colleagues want to help restore our good name

and regain our influence in the UN, they need to join me today in

supporting immediate and full payment of our UN arrears."

They are probably withdrawing to avoid paying their back instalments.

US ,UN debt

At least get your facts straight andsome. ;)

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/199...ess.un.arrears/

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/24236.htm

http://www.un.int/usa/03budget1118.htm

http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpF&b=328791

[Thos]

I haven't seen all the news in the last two days, so I am not sure what exactly you are referring to. However, one very good thing had come out of it; the visit of Thai prime minister Thaksin to the U.N. gave the Thai military a chance to get rid of that extremely corrupt leader.

Now if only the US armed forces would follow the good example of the Thai army...

Firstly, I hope you don't mean that, Pat.

You really must not give carte blanche to any state to get rid of an elected leader in that fashion.

Secondly, much as it may grieve me to say so, andsome has a point. The US has only recognised the UN when it has suited their national interests and if the offices were not on ther soil would have repudiated it long ago.

Thos.

[The Grump]

US debt

[andsome]

US debt

Thanks, saved me the trouble.

Lowey said that "my colleagues in Congress need a wake-up call. The

United States has earned the reputation as the United Nations' number

one deadbeat and if my colleagues want to help restore our good name

and regain our influence in the UN, they need to join me today in

supporting immediate and full payment of our UN arrears."

They are probably withdrawing to avoid paying their back instalments.

US ,UN debt

At least get your facts straight andsome. ;)

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/199...ess.un.arrears/

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/24236.htm

http://www.un.int/usa/03budget1118.htm

http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpF&b=328791

I note that all the sites praising the US are US sponsored site. I think Grumps link is probably nearer to the truth.

[deuces wild]

US debt

Thanks, saved me the trouble.

Lowey said that "my colleagues in Congress need a wake-up call. The

United States has earned the reputation as the United Nations' number

one deadbeat and if my colleagues want to help restore our good name

and regain our influence in the UN, they need to join me today in

supporting immediate and full payment of our UN arrears."

They are probably withdrawing to avoid paying their back instalments.

US ,UN debt

At least get your facts straight andsome. ;)

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/199...ess.un.arrears/

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/24236.htm

http://www.un.int/usa/03budget1118.htm

http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpF&b=328791

I note that all the sites praising the US are US sponsored site. I think Grumps link is probably nearer to the truth.

And why does that not surprise me?

For all I care the UN can take notices of future dues and requests for monetary donations and shove them where the sun don't shine. That organization is a scam full of thugs.

[Besty]

Does it not surprise you because the non-us sites would not praise the us because they are not as biased?

[andsome]

Does it not surprise you because the non-us sites would not praise the us because they are not as biased?

Just my point. I don't think much of the present set up in the UN myself, and think that they are pretty toothless. However, I am puzzled as to why DW has become so anti, when his country owe so much. Could it be that there is too much talk going on there about global warming, and the percentage of fossil fuels used by the US, when compared with their population as a percentage of that of the world?

[deuces wild]

Does it not surprise you because the non-us sites would not praise the us because they are not as biased?

Just my point. I don't think much of the present set up in the UN myself, and think that they are pretty toothless. However, I am puzzled as to why DW has become so anti, when his country owe so much. Could it be that there is too much talk going on there about global warming, and the percentage of fossil fuels used by the US, when compared with their population as a percentage of that of the world?

Wow, we go from the UN being a bunch of crooks to global warming to the oil consumption by the US. Hey, I gotta run and go fill up my 12 SUV's.

Edit: While I gone filling up my 12 SUV's answer this simple question for me: What good has the United Nations done recently? As this is a tough question you have till tomorrow morning to come up with some answers. :P

[catgate]

The US has only recognised the UN when it has suited their national interests and if the offices were not on ther soil would have repudiated it long ago.

Thos.

There was some careful forward planning done by Franklin D.

[expertec]

You really must not give carte blanche to any state to get rid of an elected leader in that fashion.

Elected? Mugabe style, yeah!

The US has only recognised the UN when it has suited their national interests and if the offices were not on ther soil would have repudiated it long ago.

Nobody ever recognises the UN unless it suits their national interest.

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

You really must not give carte blanche to any state to get rid of an elected leader in that fashion.

It's always amazing how certain people can win elections even if they are hated by 80% of the population. (That figure comes from a yesterday's survey in Thailand - 80% of the population say that they are happy that Thaksin is gone. However, they fear that he will buy himself back into the country.)

There was some careful forward planning done by Franklin D.

I thought that it was Eleanor.

[andsome]

I am still trying to work out just what prompted the original rant in this topic. Are you suggesting that it is better if the nations of the world do not bother to talk at all, just fight?

Are you suggesting that you are upset because the US did not get its way on a certain subject, and if so just what is causing this upset?

I think that a lot of us believe that the UN has been pretty toothless at times, but walking out with your backside in your hand won't solve anything. People need to get off their high horses and solve their differences. Just remember that all countries have a point of view, which naturally is influenced by their own interests, and getting in a huff because another country has different interests, helps no one at all.

Maybe if something is upsetting the US, and they paid their overdue dues, they would have more influence.

[deuces wild]

What good has the United Nations done recently? As this is a tough question you have till tomorrow morning to come up with some answers. :P

http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4

:lol: :lol:

[andsome]

I still don't understand what prompted the original rant. Birds tweeting on WMP means absolutely nothing.

[Thos]

The UN is a talking shop which serves a useful purpose. For nations to take their problems and talk about them rather than getting out their guns to settle their differences. It buys time and helps cooling off. It also provides peace-keeping forces in innumerable confronting situations.

It is not perfect but would be better if participating nations gave it their whole-hearted support. And that includes GB, although I think we are one of the better members.

One of it's troubles is that much of the world looks on the UN as a stooge and branch of the USA, strange as that may seem to the citizens of that country.

Thos.

[catgate]

One of it's troubles is that much of the world looks on the UN as a stooge and branch of the USA, strange as that may seem to the citizens of that country.

Thos.

I wonder why that should be so??

[andsome]

The UN is a talking shop which serves a useful purpose. For nations to take their problems and talk about them rather than getting out their guns to settle their differences. It buys time and helps cooling off. It also provides peace-keeping forces in innumerable confronting situations.

It is not perfect but would be better if participating nations gave it their whole-hearted support. And that includes GB, although I think we are one of the better members.

One of it's troubles is that much of the world looks on the UN as a stooge and branch of the USA, strange as that may seem to the citizens of that country.

Thos.

One of it's troubles is that much of the world looks on the UN as a stooge and branch of the USA, strange as that may seem to the citizens of that country.

Thos.

I wonder why that should be so??

Very strange in view of the fact that they owe so much money.

I am still wondering what prompted the topic in the first instance.

Could THIS have any bearing I wonder.

[deuces wild]

Could THIS have any bearing I wonder.

Ouch. If true that is certainly a black eye for us.