promedic92 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I had xp por up and running on a amd 1200 system. I had gotten PRO from my wifes work and have since lost the CD key and don't have a disc. Got a new ASUS Vintage AH1 with a AMD 64 socket 939. Moved my hhd dvd x2 over and tried to restart. Would get past that safe mode startup then flash a blue screen with writing on it but then try to reboot. Attempted several checks and aftermarket boot programs without success. Contacted windows support (at $ 35 cost ) and thier answer was to take my windows xp home edition, load it on the hard drive and try booting it. I done that and it will only boot in safe mode and comes up with no programs, no network ..... nothing. I can get into my hhd tho and can get into windows xp pro program. ( whew) so..... 1. Can I get into xp Pro and manipulate the registry to let me boot it?2. I have back ups on windows live one care but it is in xp pro, should I reformat and re install home edition and then can I get a restore from live oncare back up ?3. Should I open the window and toss it all out and go back to smoke signals? ( ha ha lets hope not! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 One of your problems is associated with WXP "knowing" the system is belongs to so if you transfer a hard drive containing the O/S to another computer, it is rejected as not being the correct machine and will complain either by not booting (as you are getting here) or, if the difference is only slight, re-activation by Microsoft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promedic92 Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 One of your problems is associated with WXP "knowing" the system is belongs to so if you transfer a hard drive containing the O/S to another computer, it is rejected as not being the correct machine and will complain either by not booting (as you are getting here) or, if the difference is only slight, re-activation by Microsoft.Thats what the Windows Tech guy told me. I was hoping that I would be able to work around that in Windows xp pro. Either by booting under home edition, fixing the issue, then reboot under xp pro or by a reformat then restore with live one care with my backed up data under home edition. If I go with the 2nd choice will onecare restore to a different OS? I hope I don't have to go with a reformat and restore because I had alot of software that was downloaded that I don't want to lose.Thank You for replying!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I don't know anything about onecare but, I'm pretty sure someone else here will do.Hang on for a while to see what the others say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I thought that Live One Care backed up your files - rather than the system - to media of your choice.The MS web site states :-You can restore files that were backed up from any computer running Windows Live OneCare to any computer running Windows Live OneCare. You can restore all the files that were backed up from the original computer, or just the files you choose. With a few exceptions, Windows Live OneCare will automatically try to put the restored files in the same place that they were in on the original computer.This implies that it does not depend on the version of Windows being the same.My guess is - and it is only a guess - that you cannot easily restore program files using Live One care. It does not seem to be a disc imaging programme like Acronis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I use one care now and again, and in fact it is presently running on my daughters computer. As soon as you tell it to correct any errors found, it creates a restore point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promedic92 Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I thought that Live One Care backed up your files - rather than the system - to media of your choice.The MS web site states :-You can restore files that were backed up from any computer running Windows Live OneCare to any computer running Windows Live OneCare. You can restore all the files that were backed up from the original computer, or just the files you choose. With a few exceptions, Windows Live OneCare will automatically try to put the restored files in the same place that they were in on the original computer.This implies that it does not depend on the version of Windows being the same.My guess is - and it is only a guess - that you cannot easily restore program files using Live One care. It does not seem to be a disc imaging programme like Acronis.Wow Thanks for the help. Judging by the replies any hope of saving xp pro seems to be out of reach. Please keep replying though I am finding this information helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 If I were you I would take this experience as nature telling you it is time for a fresh start.Transferring old discs with all its system files into a new machine only brings with it the old baggage. If I were in your shoes - I would buy a new Hard Drive, install it as the master and load a nice clean copy of Windows XP on it. I would install your existing HDD with all your data on it as the secondary drive.After setting up my anti virus and malware protection - I would then install all my software on the new C: drive. You mention that a lot of your software was downloaded off the internet and you do not have CD's for it. This is another lesson I learned the hard way - when I download programs, I now save the download to a file or CD before installing them so I have a copy of the original software.The old hard drive would become the D: drive and I would use this to store the "My Documents" folder. I would set up this folder and then transfer all my data into it. I would then delete from the drive all the unwanted data and program files.Finally - if you do not have a copy - get yourself a copy of Acronis True Image and back-up your nice clean system for future security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4\/!d Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 @Alan, wise words indeed. I go along with everything you say :)@promedic92, and if yer buying a new hard drive, get the biggest you can afford. 300 Gig, 400 Gig, 500 Gig it up to you. And then o'course you can get an OEM version of yer OS, such as Windows XP Home or better still XP Pro. OEM is cheaper, coz you bought some hardware. Oh what fun these machines give us It's time I popped into The Drag 'n' Drop Inn :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promedic92 Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 @Alan, wise words indeed. I go along with everything you say :)@promedic92, and if yer buying a new hard drive, get the biggest you can afford. 300 Gig, 400 Gig, 500 Gig it up to you. And then o'course you can get an OEM version of yer OS, such as Windows XP Home or better still XP Pro. OEM is cheaper, coz you bought some hardware. Oh what fun these machines give us It's time I popped into The Drag 'n' Drop Inn :lol:I have a feeling that I am heading to newegg and check hhd prices. Does anyone have any other outlets that offer good prices? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Just one more thought.Another scenario would be to do as D4\/!d suggests and get a big new hard drive - but split it into two partitions. If you got a 300 GB drive I would use 75 GB for the OS and programs and 225 GB for data (especially if you store photos and music).Your existing hard drive could then be used to safely store Acronis back ups.You would thus be best protected from hard drive corruption or failure - which is guaranteed to happen sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promedic92 Posted November 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Ok so I took the wise advise from the gallery and went out and bought a new 160 gig hhd, plus a brand new copy of my very own windows XP PRO ( $ 199 shot in the .... wallet ). Installed it as primary, slaved the secondary, made sure to check the pin settings, and began to load XP PRO on the new hard drive. Partitioned it, installed pro, and started it up for the 1st time and BAM the exact same thing happened. It started windows flashed a blue screen then rebooted. I, again, can start up in safe mode but cannot regular boot. Keep in mind this is a brand new hard drive, new processor, new motherboard, new video card. and a new copy of xp pro. I obviously am having a conflict between the drivers in windows and the system but what could it be? I think this afternoon I am going to pull the video card, pull the slave drive, and reset the bios to default ( I haven't changed anything but who knows, maybe a setting got changed accidently while I was changing the boot order). If anyone has ANY thoughts please pass them on. Thanks Again!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Not sure whether you followed this procedure but, when I'm building I ALWAYS begin with the absolute minimum of components installed to get the machine going - this usually means not even having a hard drive attached so that I can make adjustments to the BIOS. I then add components one by one, rebooting between each addition until I have the minimum to install an operating system. This usually means a hard drive and an optical drive. Only then, with the system functioning, do I progress any further and do things like add more hard drives/optical drives or whatever else is intended for the machine. I ensure that after each addition that the system is rebooted to check that it still functions.This way it is easy to go back a stage and to find out what component may be causing any problems with the setup and setting up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promedic92 Posted November 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Well the story gets wilder. while composing the previous post I , like the poster above, thought the video card might be giving me a problem. So i removed it and voloa it booted and ran ..... good. I then had the bright idea to reset the old hard drive up as primary to see if the old system would boot. The funny thing is ..... the system wouldn't boot. I verified pins, checked the ribbon .... nothing. The computer says "there was no bootable drive". So I went back to the new drive, slaved the old one, booted just fine but I have yet to get windows to regignize the slave drive. The control panel> system > devise manager sees it says it works fine but its not in the 'my computer' choices. That is, however, the least of my problems considering my history with this computer. I have to wait for new ram to run windows live onecare as the 256 ram isn't big enough. Then I maybe can restore some of the old stuff like my email folders, favorites, etc.... I certainly thank everyone for thier insight and help. I will be busy loading programs. If anyone has the cure for the slave problem I would appriciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Just a thought, does the slave drive show up in disk management (right click my computer/click manage/click disk management/right click on the slave drive/click make partition active.)This should initialise the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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