Can I stop bad language being typed on my pc

[paulsmith]

Can I stop my teenagers using bad language on chat sites.I know I can stop content coming in to my pc, but can I stop it going out? ie are there settings to use or downloads available. I have windows XP home edition.

Cheers,

Paul.

[Irene]

Welcome to the forum, Paul :D

That's an interesting post!

I'll be watching any replies you get....

I have a 14.5 year old grandson.

NOT that I think he uses bad language.

BUT, just in case.

[catgate]

Very, very easy.

Stop them using it.

edit.....the computer I mean.

[paulsmith]

the reason I've posted this question is, I stumbled on a folder containing chat logs and although one shouln't be nosey, as a parent I thought it my duty to have a quick shufty. I've never heard my offspring use any bad language at home and I think it's a peer pressure thing or trying to be 'cool' but I don't swear and I don't think other people should especialy when using MY computer.

As for stopping them using it ..you could be right but chatlines can be usefull if used well.

paul.

[catgate]

the reason I've posted this question is, I stumbled on a folder containing chat logs and although one shouln't be nosey, as a parent I thought it my duty to have a quick shufty. I've never heard my offspring use any bad language at home and I think it's a peer pressure thing or trying to be 'cool' but I don't swear and I don't think other people should especialy when using MY computer.

As for stopping them using it ..you could be right but chatlines can be usefull if used well.

paul.

Perhaps, after the unannounced stoppage, a conditional, promised reintroduction of the privilege, might cause the required result.

Just simply preventing certain words without the fatherly advise would be less effective.

It was the sort of thing my father would do when I was growing up in the 30s/40s.and which I have done too.

[Irene]

the reason I've posted this question is, I stumbled on a folder containing chat logs and although one shouldn't be nosey, as a parent I thought it my duty to have a quick shufty. I've never heard my offspring use any bad language at home and I think it's a peer pressure thing or trying to be 'cool' but I don't swear and I don't think other people should especially when using MY computer.

As for stopping them using it ..you could be right but chatlines can be usefull if used well.

paul.

Paul, you are absolutely correct in discretely checking any historical logs which our children use.

I don't believe my grandson uses bad language on the internet, but I look forward to reading any recommendations from our members, because I think many others will benefit from information in response to your post. :)

[Dencandy]

Why not try this. One day when the kids are not about paste a note somewhere on the computer reading something like: "Please do not use foul or obscene language when sending messages." That way your kids will know they're being monitored and perhaps their own sense of shame will discourage them from using it.

Anyway, hopefully they'll grow out of. I did. Not on computers because they didn't exist as household items when I grew up, but generally, I mean.

[ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb]

Perhaps, depending on the kind of improper words that have been used according to the log, removing certain keys from the keyboard might do the trick? B)

[Dencandy]

removing certain keys from the keyboard might do the trick? B)

Sounds a bit drastic Pat Willener! You don't mean that literally do you? Like physically removing the "f" key, for example. :0

That would stop you spelling a lot of other words as well!

[andsome]

What a load of fuss. Tell him that the use of the computer is banned. Obedience used to be the order of the day. Too many kids are allowed to do just what they please these days. This is why we have all the drunkenness and violence on many of the council estates in this country.

[MANEMAN]

andsome, andsome, !!!!! Dont you know the things you suggest may go against official Police guidelines. When they come out of pubs and bars drunk, officers are now handing out lollipops and chocolate to calm them down. What sort of effect pyschologically are your outdated methods going to have on poor young minds?

As a Father and Grandfather to ages running from 7 - 35 years of age, I think Paul (Paulsmith) has got to be commended on being a parent who is actually still interested in control of his teenagers. Best and most interesting thread for some time. Face them with it Paul. Use the actual words they have typed, in front of them, perhaps embarrass them in front of someone they admire (Mother, Grandmother, Grandfather etc;)

If it fails get out the rubber hosepipe and the mattress and give 'em a whacking (Mattress stops the bruising)

Only joking, I just lapsed back to my old ways of thinking. Thanks for a sensible thread Paul.

[paulsmith]

Thanks for the replies folks. I've decided a good talking to is in order (it's actually a she... girls eh.) It's just so totally out of character but they seem to slip into another alien (Chav) language when on these chat lines init. She doesn't know how I know so I can still keep a check and if it happens again a total ban will ensue. It still seems odd that something as simple as stopping certain words going out of a computer can't be done. It should be just a case of highlighting words on a list in the parental control section and clicking to block. Surely school computers must be able to block the use of certain words. I know I can do similar things to stop stuff coming in. If anyone knows a way please let me know.

Cheers,

Paul.

[Irene]

Thanks for the replies folks. I've decided a good talking to is in order (it's actually a she... girls eh.) It's just so totally out of character but they seem to slip into another alien (Chav) language when on these chat lines init. She doesn't know how I know so I can still keep a check and if it happens again a total ban will ensue. It still seems odd that something as simple as stopping certain words going out of a computer can't be done. It should be just a case of highlighting words on a list in the parental control section and clicking to block. Surely school computers must be able to block the use of certain words. I know I can do similar things to stop stuff coming in. If anyone knows a way please let me know.

You should fnd someone to program it and patent that idea Paul. ;)

[Watchful]

I think that, whilst giving her a talking-to, use the same language she employed and the shock of hearing it from you and how awful it sounds, might just do the trick

[garrason]

Did you ever think of moving your computer to a very public part of your home and attach the largest monitor screen that you can afford. Insist that all chat be done on that PC and not on a laptop under the bedcovers late at night. That way their messages will be subject to casual review by anyone walking past. If they refuse to use it, then the problem is solved.

Actually, it bothers me a bit that anyone would want to censor a dependant's output in a teen-ager or older. Surely you know that if they want to, they will do it. It's as if Granny had told me and my cousins not to talk dirty when we were behind the barn discussing girls and sex and whatever. We would have said: "Yes, ma'am", giggled and still have done it behind her back. It's all part of growing up.

However, if the dependant is using so-called dirty words to frighten, embarrass or belittle another person, then it's time for more than restriction of those words' use on a chat site.

C C Garrason

[Slyke]

It's pretty much impossible to block words being typed into the computer. There are many loop holes in that system. Ask any game company that tries to block bad language in the game.

I think the better approach would be some type of psychology. Instead of being suspicious of someone (Even if you don't tell them, they will get the vibe), instead tell them that you are trusting them not to do the wrong thing. Look at it this way: Would you try to impress someone who's suspicious of you? No, you'd only live up to their low expectation of you. Or would you try to impress someone who's trusting you? You'd try to live up to their high expectation of you.

Andsome, children these days had to of learnt those bad habits from somewhere. You were once a child too, can you blame us? We all have the right to learn, it's our problem if we ruin our lives, you can say "I told you so" all you wish, but it will not help us, what are you really trying to do? Not all youth is bad. I believe there's a positive intention behind every action. It's just their view of the world which is distorted.

Grrason's idea is would be the most efficient. Though i don't think it will solve the problem of your teenager swearing, just make them even more cautious.

[catgate]

? We all have the right to learn, it's our problem if we ruin our lives, you can say "I told you so" all you wish, but it will not help us, what are you really trying to do? .

Whose problem is it if you ruin someone else's life? More to the point, whose responsibility will it be?

[Watchful]

These days they are copying a lot of bad habits from the internet. It's not necessary to use bad language as part of growing-up and it's a parent's responsibility to teach them otherwise until they grow up.

[Mike567]

This annoyed me when I was a kid, I used to use my granparents computer I obviously you NEVER swear around granparents thats a way to get a 5 hour lecture, but yeah they saw me swear on the computer, they where so paranoid of my computer use, I used to get blamed for watching porn because my nan saw a pornographic advert on her computer and I couldn't do anything its a complete annoyance, so I built my own PC so they couldn't watch me, and I have never let anyone watch over my sholder I find it very annoying.

But yeah I swear always have, I see nothing wrong with it I'm a honest person never done a thing bad in my life, I went through phases of swearing and talking 'chav' and I've grown up fine, haven't a bad bone in my body.

I say let them have a life of their own, or they will find another way to rebel, every kid wants independance.

Just to add I learned how to use my language so it is used when needed, like poping a joke swearing can be effective or shouting at the computer :lol:.

[Watchful]

Slyke, are you speaking here, in this quote, as a teenager or as an adult?:

"Andsome, children these days had to of learnt those bad habits from somewhere. You were once a child too, can you blame us? We all have the right to learn, it's our problem if we ruin our lives, you can say "I told you so" all you wish, but it will not help us, what are you really trying to do? Not all youth is bad. I believe there's a positive intention behind every action. It's just their view of the world which is distorted."

[Watchful]

This annoyed me when I was a kid, I used to use my granparents computer I obviously you NEVER swear around granparents thats a way to get a 5 hour lecture, but yeah they saw me swear on the computer, they where so paranoid of my computer use, I used to get blamed for watching porn because my nan saw a pornographic advert on her computer and I couldn't do anything its a complete annoyance, so I built my own PC so they couldn't watch me, and I have never let anyone watch over my sholder I find it very annoying.

But yeah I swear always have, I see nothing wrong with it I'm a honest person never done a thing bad in my life, I went through phases of swearing and talking 'chav' and I've grown up fine, haven't a bad bone in my body.

I say let them have a life of their own, or they will find another way to rebel, every kid wants independance.

Just to add I learned how to use my language so it is used when needed, like poping a joke swearing can be effective or shouting at the computer :lol: .

Yes, let them have a life of their own, let them use their own computers, pay their own bills etc. Sounds a great idea to me :D Take responsibility for themselves

[Jammed]

What I would love to know is, why is "sh!t" BAD *gasp* but not "poo". I'd like to know who wrote these rules of ridiculous etiquette. The more rules you give society the worse is becomes.

[catgate]

..., like poping a joke swearing can be effective

If you study laughter, or more particularly what causes it, you will find that the swearing is unnecessary. Most of the great comedians have no need to swear. It is the way they juxtapose the serious and the impossible, the unexpected, that causes a jolt to the audiences senses. which is what causes laughter. Modern stand up comedians need the swear word to cause the jolt...the unexpected, because they are extremely poor craftsmen. If you record any modern stand up comedian and then delete his obscenities, his act does not cause laughter.

[Irene]

Just to add I learned how to use my language so it is used when needed, like poping a joke swearing can be effective or shouting at the computer :lol:.

I swear at my computer regularly (occasionally it might be a bit on the blue side :0) !!

But, no one can hear me. ;)

[Jammed]

..., like poping a joke swearing can be effective

If you study laughter, or more particularly what causes it, you will find that the swearing is unnecessary. Most of the great comedians have no need to swear. It is the way they juxtapose the serious and the impossible, the unexpected, that causes a jolt to the audiences senses. which is what causes laughter. Modern stand up comedians need the swear word to cause the jolt...the unexpected, because they are extremely poor craftsmen. If you record any modern stand up comedian and then delete his obscenities, his act does not cause laughter.

Brian Regan mastered comic genius without using swear words or obscenities. Obscenities can be left out but a few swear words here and there never hurt anyone and more of the audience can relate to the language.