CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stmI don't as it forces everyone to pay it whether they have internet access or not.Also like almost all other taxes, it is bound to go up in time :( It's also going to become law before the next general election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm even more annoyed because we use cable, but will still have to pay this tax. I sympathise with those who cannot get decent INTERNET access, but they choose to live where they do, so why should I subsidise their broadband, I pay for my own? No one pays for a better bus service for us where we live, we just have to put up with it. The same applys to BB and television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 p.s. I'm not sure if cable customers have to pay it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm even more annoyed because we use cable, but will still have to pay this tax. I sympathise with those who cannot get decent INTERNET access, but they choose to live where they do, so why should I subsidise their broadband, I pay for my own? No one pays for a better bus service for us where we live, we just have to put up with it. The same applys to BB and television. I don't think that's right as I moved into my home in 1995 which was before broadband became mainstream (ADSL not cable) and it's not that easy to move home when youv'e taken out a mortgage.Your just lucky enough to be living in a cable area :D Anyway, I don't think it's right that the public should help fund the fibre rollout of private companies like BT as these sorts of investments should come out of the profits.Also with the history of government waste, I have my doubts if it will be channelled into broadband and will probably end up being used on other pet projects like what happens with road tax!p.s. It seems that cable customers will have to pay it as well judging by your last reply:I'm even more annoyed because we use cable, but will still have to pay this taxIt's insane that the government already well down in opinion polls is introducing more taxes before the next general election!I wonder if they are trying to become even more unpopular than they are already :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Mmm... after reading this, I'm not sure if cable customers will have to pay after all? The tax would be levelled at every household that has a copper telephone line.Virgin Media customers use a mixture of fibre optics and co-axial cable (to the home) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ah but what if you have a copper telephone line but don't use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 ...and how about tose people a few hundred yards up the road from me, They have copper cable but can not get broadband. They are still on dial up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 ...and how about tose people a few hundred yards up the road from me, They have copper cable but can not get broadband. They are still on dial up.They will still have to pay it :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ah but what if you have a copper telephone line but don't use it?They would also have to pay it but to be honest if they don't use the landline then they may as well ditch it and save on the line rental :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ah but what if you have a copper telephone line but don't use it?They would also have to pay it but to be honest if they don't use the landline then they may as well ditch it and save on the line rental :DThis is where it all becomes very sticky, because what about someone who has a line that doesn't work/? It puts him into the same position as the person who dreamed all this daft idea up. He has a brain that obviously doesn't work yet he clains to use it.Should he go straight to jail without passing go AND WITHOUT CLAIMING £200. (well that is what it used to be, I suppose with inflation even that will have gone up to a sum you could dredge a moat with) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 It really doesn't matter which organisation funds the expansion of broadband - at the end of the day - the costs have to be recovered from the user base. I am with Virgin - if they decide to extend their cable system they will simply increase their tarriff to all customers in order to recoup the costs.If the government provide the finance - then the cost should rightly be recovered from the broadband market in one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Minister for Digital Britain Stephen Timms said a 50 pence per month tax for everybody with a fixed-line could be introduced in the future.Taken from hereYou don't seriously think that this bunch in Westminster will miss a chance to tax everyone. By a copper line in that one article I feel sure that they men a plugged in phone as distinct from a mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 They will problem go all the way and tax all phones, or even a tax on all calls and the provider will have to provide all the records and take the tax on their behalf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Just had another thought, they are taxing all calls anyway through VAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Just had another thought, they are taxing all calls anyway through VAT!Yes that should be the limit and my view is that if the private sector is going to profit from it, the private sector should fund it! Alternatively, we can build a nationalised network and cut BT out of the loop entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 My final word on the subject.Mind you BT isn't really to blame as Maggie is when the Tories were in power:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2004/...omment.newmediaIn the mid-1980s the talk was all of wiring up every home with fibre optic cables with virtually unlimited capacity. BT offered to do a deal with the government under which it would build a nationwide fibre optic network in exchange for being allowed to deliver "entertainment" (TV, videos etc) along its lines.But Margaret Thatcher rejected that on the grounds that it simply extended BT's monopoly and opted instead to generate more competition for BT by establishing a cable TV industry.This was either a brilliant bit of free market economics or one of the great blunders of the decade, depending on your point of view.In my view it's a blunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The point of this exercise is to gradually and stealthily end up being in charge of, and controlling, who does what on the internet. The blogsphere has wreaked to much political havoc worldwide, and so Big Brother Bilderberg will step in......but of course it will be wrapped up as being your benefit. Peter Poppet's interest in music piracy is a cover for the start of this. Both parties each "control" huge chunks of the press, but people are not buying papers much these days. So that will have to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The point of this exercise is to gradually and stealthily end up being in charge of, and controlling, who does what on the internet.Yes like another government initiative where people who download illegal music from the internet get their connections cut ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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