Gandalph Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 By jove Sir, some jolly good reading here. MPs Expenses Claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 These documents are too heavily censored to be of much benefit.I will stick with the Telegraph revelations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 These documents are too heavily censored to be of much benefit.I will stick with the Telegraph revelations.I agree Alan, they are heavily censored. That said, it still boggles the mind at the figures that are not censored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Even the M.P's on question time last night were amazed at this ridiculous censorship. I can well understand the deletion of bank account numbers, full home addresses and home phone numbers, but the first part of post codes could have been included. What a waste of time and money. I am glad to say that our local M.P. is the 569th least expensive M.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 What beats me in all of this is the fact they are not being prosecuted for fraud. Which, is what it is, a fraudulent claim. Is this a case of one law applying to us and another one for them. Or is it a case of Blind Eye syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8110022.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8110022.stmBusiness Secretary Lord Mandelson said in an interview with BBC World that it was "inevitable" that the police would become involved."If there is wrongdoing it needs to be investigated. That's how we do things in Britain," he addedHe should be in jail if what he says is true, not Lording it up and down the country like the great xxxxxxx (fill in as desired) that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8110022.stmI actually heard on the 6 o'clock news this evening that there was going to be Police action taking place. I'm very pleased about that and hope in concludes in these MPs actually having to go to Court to answer charges. As I said in an earlier post, if it were us we would be charged with Fraud and dealt with accordingly.From evidence I have seen on the television, it is even worse in the European Parliament running into Millions of Euro's. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I heard on Ch4 news last night that the Daily Telegraph is publishing its own special supplement today which fills in a lot of the censored sections of the "official" publication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I heard on Ch4 news last night that the Daily Telegraph is publishing its own special supplement today which fills in a lot of the censored sections of the "official" publication.Thank you for that info pops. I'm going to the local shops this afternoon and will try and get hold of a copy. The Telegraph is not a well read paper in Scotland. It appears that almost everyone here reads The Daily Record, The Sun and other publications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 These documents are too heavily censored to be of much benefit.I will stick with the Telegraph revelations.I bought the Daily Telegraph today as it came with a supplement entitled 'The complete expenses files'Thank goodness for the Daily Telegraph as otherwise we would never know what MP's were up to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Another scandal on top of the home 'flipping' (to avoid paying CGT tax) and claiming for 'phantom' mortgages.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8110516.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 From evidence I have seen on the television, it is even worse in the European Parliament running into Millions of Euro's. :(Yes I also read that the abuse over in Brussels is much worse than over here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7904886.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 From evidence I have seen on the television, it is even worse in the European Parliament running into Millions of Euro's. :(Yes I also read that the abuse over in Brussels is much worse than over here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7904886.stmI've just read through that lot Curly. I think, from my point of view, it's a case of sit back and wait and see what transpires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think, from my point of view, it's a case of sit back and wait and see what transpires.After the MEP's have seen what has happened to Parliament over here, I can't really see them voting to make their expense claims public :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think, from my point of view, it's a case of sit back and wait and see what transpires.After the MEP's have seen what has happened to Parliament over here, I can't really see them voting to make their expense claims public :DYou are right there Curly. They would be putting their own jobs on the line. Heads to the chopping block to coin a phrase. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I bought the Telegraph on Saturday which included the supplement detailing all the MP's expenses. It is a great read - if you have the stomach for it.The Telegraph are putting all the uncensored details on their website commencing 8.00 am 23rd June.Click here after 0800 hrs on 23rd JuneNote that you can access this site now - and it has lots of info - but the search facility of the full expenses details for each MP, going back 4 to 5 years, are not being released until the time stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 What's the betting that the police involvement will in MOST circumstances amount to nothing. Most if not all will eventually get off Scot free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Is it too much to hope that at the time of the next election the media will raise this subject all over again - kick up a dust storm day after day - target MP's in their own constituencies and thus remind the voters about the crooks they might otherwise vote for.It's the only real penalty I can see the chiselers having to face - the police will do nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Is it too much to hope that at the time of the next election the media will raise this subject all over again - kick up a dust storm day after day - target MP's in their own constituencies and thus remind the voters about the crooks they might otherwise vote for.It's the only real penalty I can see the chiselers having to face - the police will do nowt.I've got my fingers crossed that they will be prosecuted. However as you say, the police will probably say or do nowt whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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