trackrat Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 On trying to set up the internet connection it asks me for the DCHP server and to enter some words or numbers, where can I find what to put in this box.It is Mandrake 10 and is linked through a D-Link router to the lan by a cat 5 cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 HmmmLAN...Have you tried just seeing if you can access a webpage? [before we get to your questions] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilch Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Little thing...When i installed Red Hat, i managed to connect to the net instantly through my Dlink DSL 504 router.. and i am sure i set network up during the install... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Little thing...When i installed Red Hat, i managed to connect to the net instantly through my Dlink DSL 504 router.. and i am sure i set network up during the install...Yes...LAN settings should be detected OK.You shouldn't have to setup anything as it should be already to go.However if it wasn't then we'll see what we can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Thanks for that Powerless I`ll give it a try at the weekend as I am on nights this week so I do not have much time.Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Have tried to access the net, but no luck and also some weird things are happening.When I boot the puter with the LAN connected I get no GUI so I login and enter the password and type startx and it gives me a serious error that screens are available but non are configured, if I disconnect the LAN and reboot it goes straight to the GUI.I have also noticed that this download is a beta version, so would it be better to buy a proper version and hope it was just bugs in the beta version?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Hi trackrat, first things first, at the moment my knowledge of Linux is almost zero (will be having a go at Mandrake very soon), but this sounds more basic than the OS.Lets use some networking logic here. As you are having a problem booting with the LAN connected, is it possible that your machine is set to use the LAN as a boot option? Check your bios to see if it is looking for a network boot prior to the hard drive.In your first post, you say that when you tried to run the internet connection setup, it asked you for the DHCP server information. Can you tell me exactly what it asked for? I suspect it is looking for the IP address of your router (assuming your router is running the DHCP service, which it should be by default) this will probably be something like 192.168.0.1 You will need to tell me what else it asked for though.The fact that you have not got your LAN settings correctly configured, may also be the reason you are having trouble booting with the cable connected. Effectively what happens, is that the NIC will look for information to configure itself, but cannot find any.Also, are you happy that you have the correct drivers for your NIC and the OS?Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Check your bios to see if it is looking for a network boot prior to the hard drive.How do I check the above Mr M.In the bios i have 1st, 2nd & 3rd boot device set to HDD-0, CDROM & FLOPPY.Next is boot other device, which is set to enabled.And those are the only boot devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Look for "wake on LAN". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Under Power management setup I found WOL (PME#) From Soft-off which is disabled.I am just making a guess that the acronym stands for wake on LAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 trackrat, if your boot order is as above, then booting from the NIC is not the cause of your problem. I suspect it is as I stated in the final part of my post, that it is causing a problem due to being incorrectly configured.WOL does indeed stand for Wake On LAN :D Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I honestly do not now if I have the correct drivers when I go into the setup and try to setup a new connection it gives me a list, I have tried Lan & cable, next it asks for an interface to configure so I chose eth0 Nvidia corporation nforce 2 MCP networking adaptor, then it asks you if you want to automatically or manually configure (BOOTP/DHCP) so I selected automatic, then I was asked for the DHCP which is 192.168.0.1. Then it asked me for a host name which I assume is Blueyonder.co.uk, then it asks me for a Zeroconf host name and I have not got a clue what that is.Next it asks if I want to start the connection at boot, thenit asks me if I want to restart the network, then it says congratulations the network and internet configuration is finished.After this is done, we recommend you restart your X enviroment to avoid any hostname related problems.But when I reboot no internet.I even trie setting it up from the harware section of the configuration panel b ut still no joy.I now the lan works because I ran windowxp on this puter and had it networked through the router to share BB files & printer, so their must be something simple I am missing?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 A look at these settings may help you trackrat, this was set up automatically when I installed Mandrake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I have tried installing with the lan connected and without but I cannot get online as I said previously the download I have is a beta version and this is probably the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Ah then get the newer version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Well the final one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 That is what I intend to do.Thanks for all your replies.Just out of interest has anyone heard of any problems setting uo an N-Force 2 mobo with Mandrake 10 ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 That is what I intend to do.Thanks for all your replies.Just out of interest has anyone heard of any problems setting uo an N-Force 2 mobo with Mandrake 10 ?.I hope not, I am just about to fit one to my pc as I do a major upgrade.Coming back to your problem, I think it has the correct drivers for the NIC, due to the fact it is correctly identyfing it.It may be worth trying to set up the connection manually, instead of via DHCP.You will need to have a note of the following information.An Ip address you can use. If the router is on 192.168.0.1, then you can have anything between 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.254. I would suggest using 192.168.0.210 simply because it is unlikely that it is being used elsewhere on your network. This address has to be unused by anything else on your network.The subnet you will need to use will be 255.255.255.0You will also need to know the addresses of the DNS servers used by your connection. You will be able to find this from one of your other computers on your LAN. If you are unsure how to do this, then tell me which OS's you have and I will let you know how to do it.Finally, you will need the gateway address. This is the IP address for your router, 192.168.0.1The host name, by the way, is the name by which you want your computer to be known on the network, not your ISP. So you may want it ot be something like trackrat1 or trackrat2 for example. It should ideally be unique to your network, so each computer has a different name.You should also verify that 192.168.0.1 is the CORRECT address for your router, as 192.168.1.1 is also commonly used.One last thing, zeroconf seems to be UNIX/Linux protocol for easing the configuration of IP based networks. I really don't think you actually need it. There is some more info about this herehttp://zeroconf.sourceforge.net/Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Thanks Mr. M, I will try that tomorrow as I have to go out and will not be back till late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Have a good time :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Hi MR M , tried it manually , still no good so I will wait for the other one to come and have another go.It is going to work if it takes from now to eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Errr so what have you exaclty tried then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Having just tried to set up a few different "distros" (as those in the know call them) I have had similar problems with internet connections. It all boiled down, in my case, to trying to use a winmodem. Linux/GNU does not want to play, so I obtained an external one. I then found that an external modem uses a four 'pin' cable as opposed to a two for a winmodem. Thereafter Kppp, worked through on the dialogue routine, soon had me on line. The big problem to me was trying to understand the usage of the word "Host". It seems to be used in several different ways within Linux and have a slightly different meaning to the one under M$ Windows. I still find Linux less than user friendly but very promising. It reminds me of running DOS batch files. The big stumbling block is the difference in command vocabulary from DOS. However I feel it is worth persevering with. (I am using my windows machine for this and all other regular things and just using my Linux machine ....mandrake 9.3... for fiddling with) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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