catgate Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 conscienceWhat a quaint way of spelling "backhander". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 It was a political fop to keep the back bencher's in line to the build up to next years election ..... Apparently b'liar is now saying that he is not against hunting but wants licenced control ......Just cannot make it up can you ......!Far more parliamentary time spent on this than the whole os the BS surrounding the Iraqi invasion .......to quote a frazer were dooommed ...were all doomed . Ah tell yeh ....!PS ...shooting is not to brill either ....one got shot and it took its back leg off ...we didnt find the corpse till next morning ..... ..... and its not easy ....the more you go after them with guns ....the more stealthy they get ......just hold your arm out horizontally in front of you ...and they are gone ....AndsomeIf you really want to get stoked over animal welfare ....check out a mass "production" chicken shed ............Itll be the last KFC you will ever stick your gnashers into .! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I only eat free range chicken & free range eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Surprised you're not a vegetarian andsome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I only eat free range chicken & free range eggs.It is to be hoped that the expected surfeit of foxes does not become so great that they have to come and eat up your supply of free range chickens and eggs!!!! :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rong Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I don’t think there will be more foxes! As more will have to suffer being shot and wounded with no one to look out for them, as all the people with an interest will be out of work. There will also be less wildlife about because these same people that hunt Foxes look after their habitat.There is a bigger loss to wildlife in general as the more the minority stop countryside pursuits, the less the need to spend time and money on the countryside, by the landowners. Farming is pushed to the limits as it is and the incentive is sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grump Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Fox hunting, along with Hare coarsing is barbaric, how anyone can call it a sport is beyond my comprehension.Chasing any animal with dogs until they are caught and then ripped apart is despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Fox hunting, along with Hare coarsing is barbaric, how anyone can call it a sport is beyond my comprehension.Chasing any animal with dogs until they are caught and then ripped apart is despicable.If it's such a good sport, why not try setting the dogs onto each other. WHAT IS THE OBJECTION TO DRAG HUNTING??? You still get to race across the fields and jump hedges etc. If you want to rub blood onto children's faces you could always prick your thumb, or would that cause too much pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester1 Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Fox hunting, along with Hare coarsing is barbaric, how anyone can call it a sport is beyond my comprehension.Chasing any animal with dogs until they are caught and then ripped apart is despicable.That says it all forget your political views, to put this into perspective :-These animals are being "Terrorised" and subjected to unacceptable levels of pain and Trauma.Now equate this to a human situation that we currently have in Iraq where a man is being subjected to the same levels of trauma and tell me that this is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 It just isn't right, but the hunting fraternity have a mental block, and can't see what they are really doing. I really would like to see a pack of hounds set on some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 OK Fishing ........ what is the point ..... theres real babarity for you.... lets..... ban it(see Damo's post earlier).........................................................................................................Heh....................looks like there is a new sport IndependentTimetable of intimidation12 September Protesters cornered Nick Ainger, MP for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire, left, at his home. Residents in Mr Ainger's street in Pembroke were woken at 7.40am by successive blasts from a hunting horn. About 50 protesters returned three hours later and engaged in what Mr Ainger described as a "long and frank exchange of views" with the MP on his doorstep.15 SeptemberProtesters targeted the family homes of Phil Hope, MP for Corby, left, and Phil Sawford, MP for Kettering, while both were at Westminster. A tip-off to police prevented masked men from dumping two lorryloads of manure on the MPs' driveways.A block of concrete was thrown through a window at the Labour Party office in Stroud, Gloucestershire, headquarters of the MP David Drew.16 SeptemberSeveral MPs, including Alan Simpson, left, the member for Nottingham South, and the former sports minister Tony Banks, the member for West Ham, were named in a threatening call to the office of Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, below. The caller warned that the offices of all three would be attacked. All the politicians were advised to increase their personal security.16 SeptemberTom Harris, top right, MP for Glasgow Cathcart, received an abusive e-mail which warned him that if he did not drop his support for a ban on hunting, things could get "really ugly". The e-mail also told him: "You will need all the protection you can get." Paddy Tipping, the MP for Sherwood, right second from top, received a series of abusive phone calls and death threats.17 SeptemberPhil Hope, the Corby MP, left, was confronted by hunt supporters at a school near Peterborough after he opened a computer centre. They tried to speak to him as he got into his car, which collided with a horse-box. Protesters left the corpses of two foxes at the office of the Wellingborough MP, Paul Stinchcombe, second from bottom, in his Northamptonshire constituency.19 September Threats from pro-hunting groups forced the Rural Affairs minister, Alun Michael, bottom, to pull out of celebrations marking the start of ramblers' right to roam. In his role at the Department for the Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs, the MP for Cardiff South and Penarth has responsibility for policy on hunting with dogs, rights of way, commons and national parks.22 SeptemberLord Whitty, the Agriculture minister, left, was surrounded by angry protesters after speaking to dairy farmers at the Royal Agricultural Showground at Stoneleigh in Warwickshire and needed a police escort to escape. After spending several days lying low, Alun Michael was pelted with eggs by demonstrators as he left a conference on national parks in Exeter.23 September A Labour Party meeting at Kidderminster in Worcestershire, was surrounded by about 150 protesters hoping to confront Michael Foster, left, the Labour MP for Worcester and one of the prime movers in the campaign to outlaw hunting, who was expected to attend. About 30 protesters forced their way in, smashing some windows and damaging a door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhat Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Does anyone know UKIP's position on Fox hunting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Does anyone know UKIP's position on Fox hunting?It's worth trying to find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 It's worth trying to find outWhy is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 It's worth trying to find outWhy is it?We've been through all this before. As far as I am concerned, Labour have already given too much away to Europe, the Lib Dem's would sell us out lock stock and barrel, and the Tories are a bit of a spent force at present. I voted UKIP in the European elections because of the party's stance on further integration. If they are also against hunting, from my point of view this would make them an attractive proposition for a general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbanger Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 The UKIP web site as no info regarding fox hunting. I suggest if you need to know, send them an email requesting clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I have just contacted the party, and they do not believe in an outright ban. They will still get my vote in European elections, but NOT in general elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 So, who'll you vote for in a general election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 So, who'll you vote for in a general election?That is a very difficult decision. I was brought up Labour. Got disillusioned with them and voted Liberal for a few years. Decided that that was a waste of time, and for many years have voted Tory. They are a shambles at present. Labour are even more sleazy than the last Tory government, and the Lib Dem's would sell us lock stock and barrel to Europe. This will need a lot of careful thought, especially nearer to the actual day. I will have to see what Independent candidates are on the scene in our area.Who will you vote for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Is Guy Faulkes standing this time? Could be some fireworks if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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