Hurdy Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Labour for me, I would hate to see the Tories get back in and gut the health and education services like beforeYeah! They've really improved under Cheesey haven't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanab Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well my local hospital and school have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwp Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 you probably wont remember Besty, but after 18 years of tory misrule.when they sold the family silver.ie gas electric water and telecoms this is why there is sod all left but taxes to pay for schools the health serviceand the elderly.i'll stick with labour and keep my fleece thank you very much.BaaaLoad of :censored:.... the poor performance of the nationalised industries was a heavy drain on public finances.no they kept the postal service.ask france would they like to give us are water back or would the gas electric and bt shareholders forgo there dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well my local hospital and school have.So you would trust a pupil from the local comp to train to be a doctor in a MRSA infested hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanab Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Why wouldn't a pupil from the local comp be able to train as a doctor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 They wouldn't even pass the 'grunt' test.Look around you man for God's sake.The country is full of Neanderthals in baseballs caps.Eight years of Blair has resulted in such a deterioration of society and hospital standards that it's unable to fathom how to recover from it.Before you come back with the usual Blairite rhetoric stop and think.Eight years of New Labour - please don't refer to to Tory rule. You've had more than long enough to put it right but in fact it's worse.By a long chalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanab Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 HurdyTo suggest that it is impossible for children who pass through the state system to make anything of themselves is absurd.I am on the governing body of my childrens local primary school which is situated in East London. It is extremely well run and the kids are brilliant, they are well behaved and achieve good grades.Although budgets are always tight we have had considerable investment in the school infrastructure including a new dinning/sports hall costing a third of a million, a new ICT suite and a totally revamped nursery.I also have a thirteen year old nephew at the local comp who is a grade A student and would more than pass the "grunt test", he is also very well mannered and considerate, despite the fact he listens to Marilyn Manson and wears a baseball cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi romanab, it's very late at night....I also have a thirteen year old nephew at the local comp who is a grade A student and would more than pass the "grunt test", he is also very well mannered and considerate, despite the fact he listens to Marilyn Manson and wears a baseball cap.My own children listen to MM and that in itself is not a problem - in fact I quite like some of his songs - but hey! Let's not fool ourselves.Do you think the majority of children leaving school today are adequately educated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanab Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 "Do you think the majority of children leaving school today are adequately educated?"Across the whole of the UK, yes I do believe that, but I do not think it is anywhere near a large enough majority, but then I don't think it ever has been.There is no doubt that standards of behaviour among the young have deteriated but this is happening across much of the planet and I don't believe it is down to any one government in any one country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester1 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 you probably wont remember Besty, but after 18 years of tory misrule.when they sold the family silver.ie gas electric water and telecoms this is why there is sod all left but taxes to pay for schools the health serviceand the elderly.i'll stick with labour and keep my fleece thank you very much.BaaaMe too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces wild Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 There are thousands, perhaps milliions of folks born in the inner city and/or facing inadequate school systems who rose beyond that and made a name for themselves. The old mentality of blaming others does not cut it anymore. If you want it you can get it.No need to blame the schools. No need to blame the government. No need to rely on the goverment (paid for by us) handouts.Take responsibility for your own life and your own actions and stop blaming and relying on others.Off my soapbox now. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 The last politician that got on a soap box ...lost the election ...... and let in the cheese , the salsa dancer , two jags , the wife rogerer,with his voyeur dog.....and the rest of the whiter than white reprobates....heres a laugh The Times LABOUR is planning to legislate to stop cheating in postal voting immediately after the general election in spite of repeated assurances from ministers that the present system is safe, The Times has learnt.Another one of two Jags pet projects...... to increase the labour vote notice the word .....after ....! ..to singalonga to Sir Bob .... altogether now.....! "Banana RepublicSeptic IsleScreaming in the suffering seaIt sounds like crying .........""Take your hand and lead youUp a garden pathLet me stand aside hereAnd watch you pass"I'm wondering or UK's version of "hanging chads" and the invalidity of marginal seats , which my guess is , there will be a lot ........ about 12 in the Brummie area alone ......Lawyers (Matrix....? ) looking to make a mint ...after May I guess the trollop has pay off the big mortgage ...needs work creation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 The point about closing loopholes after election, is because they are hoping for a few more fiddled votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I didn't want to labour the point ...but...!this was in the Indepedent  The Independent  Britain's next Government "could be decided in the courts", a leading election official has told The Independent on Sunday.The spectre of "a Florida-style outcome" to the general election has been raised as a second judge rules that safeguards against postal vote fraud are seriously flawed.Tony Blair's attempts to play down the scale of the problem were dealt a blow on Friday when a second judge condemned the arrangements. Jailing a former Labour councillor for three years for postal vote fraud, Judge Peter Openshaw said: "The system is wide open to fraud."Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, and the Electoral Commission rushed out new guidelines to police.But Chris Fox, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, admitted last night that no extra resources had been released to the front line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhat Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I just don't beleive there is a viable party to choose, they are all (in my opinion) boneheads that are out for what they can get. There's no empathy with the general public on important issues and this, for politicians, is NOT acceptable. Forgive me if there's already such a thing, but why not have a regulater for political parties to make sure they do what they say on the can? Or am I living in a dream world... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Forgive me if there's already such a thing, but why not have a regulater for political parties to make sure they do what they say on the can? Or am I living in a dream world... ;)PROBABLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Political fun and games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel=UK= Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 For all you people who rnt sure have ago at this http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.comI Got:You should vote: GreenThe Green Party, which is of course strong on environmental issues, takes a strong position on welfare issues, but was firmly against the war in Iraq. Other key concerns are cannabis, where the party takes a liberal line, and foxhunting, which unsurprisingly the Greens are firmly against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Rebel=UK=I got the same result as you, the Green Party :huh: I have always been a Labour supporter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Mine came out as UKIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4may Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Mine was UKIP as wellbut I don't think I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwp Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Mine was UKIP as wellbut I don't think I willditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Worst nightmare.Mine came out as LibDem.Never in a million..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djohn Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I expected mine to be labour from the answers I gave, but labour came as - 11. UKIP came out in front by a large margin with a + 28 :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Swap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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