Replacing NAV with NOD32

[Jayno]

I'm contemplating doing this to get the excellent security claimed for NOD and its smaller footprint, as my puta is very slow at opening progs and I suspect NAV2006 is contributing to this, if not causing it.

General question: slightly concerned that people say NOD is not user friendly and is complicated to set up. Is that true and if so, would I be better off going for Kaspersky AV, which most folk say is very user friendly?

Idiot question: I suppose I have to get Norton AV fully removed before I install and use a new AV?

jayno

[-pops-]

andsome is the one to tell you about this - he has done exactly that change from NAV to Nod. I remember that biggest problem he had was with effectively removing NAV.

I'm sure andsome will be on line tomorrow.

[Jayno]

andsome is the one to tell you about this - he has done exactly that change from NAV to Nod. I remember that biggest problem he had was with effectively removing NAV.

I'm sure andsome will be on line tomorrow.

Thanks Pops

I haven't tried it yet, but I was intending to follow the advice of this guy for removing NAV, as he looks very solid:

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_fully_...on_from_pc.html

[Scarecrow Man]

Apparently removing Norton was such a problem, they created another program who's purpose was to remove it.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sunse...a6?OpenDocument

[Boris]

This is the latest Norton removal tool :)

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_T...mNRT_d4749.html

[andsome]

I found Nod 32 a doddle to install. It updates itself several time per day. As has been said, my biggest problem was removing Norton system works. it needed several tools and then I still had to edit the registry. I later fouled things up for a completely different reason, mucking about with a different program, and ended up reinstalling Windows, so Norton was then completely off my system for good, and GOOD RIDDANCE to it. Would it be too much trouble to reinstall and start afresh? I have been VERY satisfied with Nod 32, and I feel sure that Nellie uses it too. I would suggest that you copy it to an installation CD. :D

[nellie2]

Yes I use Nod32, it's fab and I had no problems installing it at all.

I suggest you download the latest Norton removal tool and then disconnect and unplug from the internet.

Uninstall all references to Norton or Symantec that you can find in Add/Remove programs and then reboot. Then run the Norton removal tool and reboot again.

You can then have a look for any folders that may be left over in your program files list or your common files list and delete them if you wish

Then you should be able to happily install Nod.

I would stay well away from the registry if I were you.. unless you are comfortable with editing the registry and you know what you are doing.. don't do it.

[andsome]

Yes I use Nod32, it's fab and I had no problems installing it at all.

I suggest you download the latest Norton removal tool and then disconnect and unplug from the internet.

Uninstall all references to Norton or Symantec that you can find in Add/Remove programs and then reboot. Then run the Norton removal tool and reboot again.

You can then have a look for any folders that may be left over in your program files list or your common files list and delete them if you wish

Then you should be able to happily install Nod.

I would stay well away from the registry if I were you.. unless you are comfortable with editing the registry and you know what you are doing.. don't do it.

I would definitely agree with that. I first edited the registry with telephone help from Commando AV when I had a corruption problem, and now do it with confidence, AFTER exporting it to a folder. Not to be done unless someone guides you through it the first time.

[Jayno]

Thanks everybody

I will let you know how I get on

[Chris]

The current version of NOD is not the best if you don't know how to set it up...

The good news is that a new version of NOD AV 3.0 is coming [Release Candidates right now] that is far superiror; GUI and settings wise.

There is also an Eset Smart Security coming.... AV and FW [antispyware as well I think] so it's only getting better...

[Jayno]

Well team, I have followed your links and guidance and now gotten rid of all Norton stuff except a 'symantec' folder in Programs / Common files that the Norton removal tool hasn't cleared and which refuses to be deleted manually. It is called CCPD-LC, and contains:

ez_log

symlcnet.dll

symlcrst.dll

symlcsvc

symlctuk.dll

A symantec CCPD-LC file is also sitting in my Registry in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE / Software / Symantec, but seems to have differently named subfiles inside it.

I have purchased and installed NOD32 and when I ran an in-depth scan it flagged up CCPD-LC as a shared dll file that is "locked" and cannot be accessed. There are about 50 other "locked" folders it couldn't access!

Anyone think I should pursue this further or just leave it?

NOD32 appears to be working OK, though it found no infections in the deep scan I ran - which almost disappointed me!

Good news is that my puta now boots up from black screen to ready-to-roll in 1 min 45 seconds compared to about 4/5 mins when I had NAV installed, and FIREFOX and BARCA (my email client) both open quicker.

J

[andsome]

I spoke to Eset regarding locked files. Evidently this is normal, and is the one program that shows these files whereas other AV programs don't. At least, that is how I understand it.

Telephone contact

[Scarthy © ® ™]

I have been using NOD32 for years now. I find it really easy to use and it takes care of itself really. There are a few good setup tutorials around like Wilder's NOD32 Security Forums what they have here. It has a MUCH smaller 'footprint' than alot of other AV programs and Symantec is one of the GREEDY ones!

If you have used the removal tool above then CrapCleaner may clean alot of the other bits and bobs left by it's removal. Other than that give it a go. I have tried NAV2002-2003-2004/Kaspersky/BitDefender/McAfee etc etc. in the past and NOD beats them all for me! I now use NOD32 AV, Outpost FW, Spybot S&D, SpywareBlaster and a few free tools and that's it. ;)

[Jayno]

Andsome - thanks for taking the time to check 'locked' files with Eset. Their answer is very re-assuring. I have also noted their contact details.

Scarthy - cheers for the supportive comments and link to Wilders Forum, where I have now registered. As you mention your security software, for the record, my security kit is now NOD32, Ad-aware, Spyware Doctor, Trojan Hunter, Registry Mechanic and CCleaner. I have removed Norton's Personal Firewall and will run with MSoft's XP firewall for now. I have Spybot and HijackT for those times when I need to work with WF. I also have The Ultimate Troubleshooter (http://www.answersthatwork.com/), which I like very much for checking what's helping my PC work well or otherwise.

I just ran a Steve Gibson security test suite (http://www.grc.com/intro.htm) and got a completely solid result.

Let's hear it for clean machines!

J

[andsome]

Have a look at Comodo Pro firewall. It is FREE and first class.

[Alan2273]

You can also use Zone Alarm, which is also free.

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_down.../download.html#

And if you want more choice here is another free one.

http://www.tucows.com/preview/213160

[andsome]

If you have Nod 32, you will be e mailed sometime possibly in November, and be offered a FREE upgrade to version 3, or alternatively for a small charge you can have the complete security suite, which will include a spam preventer and a firewall.

[Jayno]

Andsome & Alan

Do you really think I need an extra firewall beyond the WXP one? I've noticed there are some techie debates around between people who swear by them and others who think they aren't a fat lot of good. On balance I'm sure they add to security, but is the slow down cost worth it?

J

ps: will be interested to see what the November offer from Eset is

[Jayno]

Just been reading that the anti-spam element of NOD32 v3.0 will only work with Outlook. Shame, I use Barca - though this is pretty good at filtering spam anyway ..

[andsome]

Windows firewall is no where near as good as several other free ones like Comodo. It only works one way, and will not stop your computer from sending things that it shouldn't, at least that is how I understand it. As you know, there are several very skilled computer people on the forum, and to the best of my knowledge they all use an alternative firewall. It has to be YOUR choice as to what you do. :D

[nellie2]

Andsome is right (oooooh that hurt! ) The XP firewall only works one way and while it is better than nothing, I would recommend a third party firewall. Comodo is a good choice but if Eset are bringing out a security suite that includes a firewall then you might want to wait for that.

[andsome]

If it were me, I would prefer NOT to wait, but instead would use Comodo for now together with Nod 32, then take the free Eset upgrade to version 3 of the AV program, and stick with Comodo, or pay the small extra fee for the full Eset upgrade to their security suite. It could be tempting fate to stick with the Windows firewall.

[andsome]

For people with a problem removing Norton.

THIS COULD BE USEFUL.

[Jayno]

Yes Andsome, I do know about and agree with the points you make. I think when deciding if XPFW is enough the rub is whether we regard ourselves as safe surfers or not? Although I don't go in for the nasty stuff that's available I do have a record of picking up strange invaders of my puta every now and again, so I might add a two-way FW like Comodo after all.

Cheers mate

[CurlyWhirly]

Another happy NOD32 user B)