catgate Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I'm missing something. Who are those people?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rong Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I'm missing something. Who are those people??I'm not blonde and I don't know either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 It looks like that MP from somewhere in Cheshire can't remember his name but I don't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Neither do I, and I am quite thin on top, and what's left is grey. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I bet he'll get a load of freebies made from Pork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted July 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I'm missing something. Who are those people??Lord and Lady Winterton. Both MPs.From Guido:-The mortgage on the Winterton's Belgravia flat purchased in the mid-nineties was paid by the taxpayers for a decade. However the generosity of the taxpayers wasn't enough for them...By 2002 they were the owners of a now mortgage free property in very good repair (we paid for the repairs) worth some £700,000, yet the Wintertons had a problem. There was no longer a mortgage to justify a housing allowance, meaning that tens of thousands of pounds that they had been claiming annually would no longer be claimable.The Wintertons transferred the property to a trust to avoid £280,000 inheritance tax - a not unusual arrangement - however their arrangement had a twist. They themselves are the trustees, their children are the beneficiaries. The trustees (the Wintertons) charged the tenants (the Wintertons) £21,600 a year rent, which was paid by the taxpayer (you).That arrangement over five years would, by Guido's estimation, net them the trust £108,000 tax free, equivalent before tax to £180,000 to an ordinary taxpayer. The Standards and Privileges Committee has ruled that those payments are against the rules.So will the estimated £108,000 paid to their own trust be repaid to the taxpayer? If not, why not?The Standards and Privileges Committee did not tell them to give the money back, They were told that they had a period of grace (I think until September or October) to rectify the situation. So they have told the The Standards and Privileges Committee that they are moving out into a flat they do not own, and on which they can claim rent expenses, and are going to let out the flat belonging to the family trust and the family trust will draw rent on that.No wonder they look happy.The original photo' of them was taken when he got his knighthood "for services to parliament" or some such scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Am I allowed some really foul language on the forum, JUST ONCE PLEASE? ####~~~~~~###************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 That's him! Is he wearing that hat for a bet ? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Clever bastards ain't they... if only these politicians put half their ingenuity towards solving this country's problems instead of finding ways to make themselves rich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Clever bastards ain't they... if only these politicians put half their ingenuity towards solving this country's problems instead of finding ways to make themselves rich... You're right there expertec. The trouble is now they are all joining the 'I'm all right Jack' club. I think they have all come round to the 'If you can't beat them, join them' decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Clever bastards ain't they... if only these politicians put half their ingenuity towards solving this country's problems instead of finding ways to make themselves rich... You're right there expertec. The trouble is now they are all joining the 'I'm all right Jack' club. I think they have all come round to the 'If you can't beat them, join them' decision. Correct. It's time they realised they are only there because we put them there; they are ordinary people and not celebrities. We want value for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 A pox on the whole bunch if them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 You're right there expertec. The trouble is now they are all joining the 'I'm all right Jack' club. I think they have all come round to the 'If you can't beat them, join them' decision. Something worth thinking about though... I'm impressed that Ray Lewis resigned... (or David Davis for that matter... interesting decision on his part.) Makes a refreshing change when you get a politician who's not just desperate to cling onto their position of power. Here's hoping Boris Johnson's administration will be less corrupt than the rest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 You're right there expertec. The trouble is now they are all joining the 'I'm all right Jack' club. I think they have all come round to the 'If you can't beat them, join them' decision. Something worth thinking about though... I'm impressed that Ray Lewis resigned... (or David Davis for that matter... interesting decision on his part.) Makes a refreshing change when you get a politician who's not just desperate to cling onto their position of power. Here's hoping Boris Johnson's administration will be less corrupt than the rest...Yes I agree. I was pleased when David Davis resigned and put his views forward to the media. I feel exactly the way he does and I have been saying it for a couple of years now, the Government are becoming a Dictatorship and completely divorced from what they are supposed to be upholding to, Democracy and Freedom. They seem to forget that Thousands of people fought and died in two World Wars just for that very reason. Our local Labour would-be MP was around the other day knocking on door's and asking loads of questions, by the time he left my front door his tail was between his legs. I gave him a gentle reminder that the next time there is a Local or General Election in Scotland just to give my door a miss as I shan't answer it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 You're right there expertec. The trouble is now they are all joining the 'I'm all right Jack' club. I think they have all come round to the 'If you can't beat them, join them' decision. Something worth thinking about though... I'm impressed that Ray Lewis resigned... (or David Davis for that matter... interesting decision on his part.) Makes a refreshing change when you get a politician who's not just desperate to cling onto their position of power. Here's hoping Boris Johnson's administration will be less corrupt than the rest...Yes I agree. I was pleased when David Davis resigned and put his views forward to the media. I feel exactly the way he does and I have been saying it for a couple of years now, the Government are becoming a Dictatorship and completely divorced from what they are supposed to be upholding to, Democracy and Freedom. They seem to forget that Thousands of people fought and died in two World Wars just for that very reason. Our local Labour would-be MP was around the other day knocking on door's and asking loads of questions, by the time he left my front door his tail was between his legs. I gave him a gentle reminder that the next time there is a Local or General Election in Scotland just to give my door a miss as I shan't answer it to him. Well done. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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