-pops- Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I've just had this Pythonesque vision of hundreds of bishops in full drag goose-stepping over Westminster Bridge http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7522217.stm(Anything to avoid the real issues that concern the Church). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I agree and they would earn my respect if they led a march protesting about the corrupt governments of these countries that receive billions in aid but no re-structuring or progress is visible :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 How about utilising some of the churches wealth? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I had a road to Damascus experience in the seventies in a town in Southern Germany called Ottobeuren. I had gone, along with one of our project engineers, to observe, and hopefully approve, the running of a new packaging machine, which had been built for us in a factory but a few kilometers away from the small town Ottobeuren.We were asked if we would like to go and see Ottobeuren Abbey. So off we went. From the outside it looked very ordinary, but once through he old grubby door the place was absolutely amazing. For sheer opulence I have never seen its equal. There were "wonders" of carving, in wood and stone, with and without acres of gold leaf. There were gold and silver artifact of every type, (there were even gold and silver things that might not have been artifacts).There were relics of past saints and abbots and bishops all neatly displayed (some in gold and/or silver containers)The roof space seemed to be full of carved and painted angels and saints, some balanced in positions which caused one to think they would come crashing down on the worshipers below, and of course the Virgin Mary was in every nook and corner,In my opinion it beat all the pictures of the Micheal Angelo stuff that I have ever seen.And then I stopped.........and looked round .....and realised that for centuries the poor peasants of the area had been labouring in the fields to provide the cash and labouir needed for the building of this edifice. Not only for this edifice but for the sustainance of the monks and holy fathers there in and also the regular subscriptions to Rome. No doubt on paper (or in the case of Ottobeuren it would be vellum) the money came from the local aristocracy...but they did no work, they owned the peasants!Proof that politics and religion are but two sides of the same coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Proof that politics and religion are but two sides of the same coin.Or two cheeks of the same fundamental orifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hypocrisy is rife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hypocrisy is rife.Do you suppose that, just as doctors swear a Hypcratic oath, these chaps swear a Hypocrasic oath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hypocrisy is rife.Too true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dencandy Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 It occured to me when I was meditating recently that if there really was an all powerful God who was truly compassionate to the people he supposedly created he would have appeared by now to put the record straight about what his teaching really is. It seems he told the Jews one thing, Christians another, Moslems a third teaching, Hindus something else, and so on for other theistic religions. And even within those different religions the preachers are arguing with each other about what God's guidance really is...Funny old world innit? P.S. I hope no one takes offence at this post, because that's not my intention. Like others in this thread I'm genuinely concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 I have thought for a good many years that religion is one of the main causes of war and strife in the world. Nothing wrong in having a God if that is what you want, but EVERYTHING wrong with killing in the name of that God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Proof that politics and religion are but two sides of the same coin. The coin is called "benign behaviour guidance of the population", and although in theory it is a worthy aim, both sides have become corrupted even more than the population they are supposedly "guiding". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 After marching against world poverty yesterday, the bishops of the Anglican Communion repaired to a lavishly decorated marquee at Lambeth Place for a light snack here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 As a mark of respect they should have foregone the lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 They did exactly the same as the politicians did recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have thought for a good many years that religion is one of the main causes of war and strife in the world. Nothing wrong in having a God if that is what you want, but EVERYTHING wrong with killing in the name of that God.Religion certainly has a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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