Tankus Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Ok Cheesys taken the U turn to get a sticky problem out of the next elections ..Whats it gonna be ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Damo Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Voted No, The EU can go and take a running jump as far as Im concerned!!!...Blooming Medellers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Major mistake adding the basket economy eastern block 's , we will end up as major net contributers......Fairly amusing debate in Parliament this afternoon , it was a pity it was over such a serious subject .....Its the party politics with eyes on the next election ...running this... not necessarily what is best for the country . The euro politicos consider B'liars decision to have a referendum , is borne out of political weakness...l No reverse gear my arse ..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 No..... our poor little country just isn't big enough to support the whole of the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Tankus, I think you need to add a "not sure" option to your poll.Personally, I would like to hear a lot more GOOD (ie not from politicians) information before I make up my mind. After all, this is possibly one of the biggest steps this country will take since 1066.Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I dare say we are going to get shed loads of it before next Oct , particularly if the elections come up next May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwp Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 voted yes the first time because it was to late to turn back.but as they have taken the p*** out of us for the last thirty years lets tellthem to p*** off this time.no :ranting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 During the last referendum I voted YES to a COMMON MARKET. I DID NOT vote to be ruled by a load of unelected meddlers in Brussels and Strasbourg. I have no objection whatsoever to a free market arrangement, but for pity's sake lets do away with all the petty rules and regulations, dictates that other country's vote for and then don't implement themselves, massive subsidies to inefficient farmers, and airlines, etc etc. Now that the eastern bloc is about to come in can you imagine the vast increases in tax, if Europe is allowed to set tax rates. France wants the UK in because they need help with their bloated pensions and benefits system, so does Germany to a lesser extent. It's bad enough having Gordon Brown's hand in our pockets, without every other Franz, Claude, Aleksy, Azouklas, Bedrich etc getting theirs in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I voted yes purely in the hope that we might build something to challenge Americas grip on the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 We'll join envetually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djohn Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 I don't think we will. [Join eventually] I certainly hope not. anyway. If this had been going to happen we would have been making more positive moves over the past thirty years. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Interesting ...cheesy did not rule out the possibility that there would be repetitive referendums until there was a yes vote .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 I think if the first one is a 'No' then his credibilty would be gone and he'd be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grump Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 France wants the UK in because they need help with their bloated pensions and benefits system, so does Germany to a lesser extent.Do I detect a bit of jealousy here.We should bring our pensions and benefits up to their level, not decry them for looking after the old and people in need of benefits.The pensions in some other countries in the EEC are far better than the pitiful amount given to the old in the UK. We should spend less money on pretending that we are still a World Power and more on looking after the people who need it.The Grump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 France wants the UK in because they need help with their bloated pensions and benefits system, so does Germany to a lesser extent.Do I detect a bit of jealousy here.We should bring our pensions and benefits up to their level, not decry them for looking after the old and people in need of benefits.The pensions in some other countries in the EEC are far better than the pitiful amount given to the old in the UK. We should spend less money on pretending that we are still a World Power and more on looking after the people who need it.The Grump. I am retired and could well use a pension increase. I am however realistic enough to realise that it would have to be paid for, and that there are an ever decreasing number of young people to pay for such an increase, let alone subsidise other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think if the first one is a 'No' then his credibilty would be gone and he'd be off.Credibility? Where you been living for the last 5 years :unsure: :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Missed out the word 'finally' :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Yes, no, maybe ... that's his final answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted April 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Coming our way due to free trade ...?Garlic butter. Peanut butter. Or just butter. All may be household names. Now farmers in the Baltic state of Latvia want to introduce a hitherto unknown butter, cannabis butter, to the world.Taipei Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Prodi was on Frost this morning , he gave the impression that "Euro-expansion" will stop when the psycho states of the Balkans are incorporated ....The 10 now joining are going to be net debitors , I dont understand the thinking behind the expasion eastwards ....War prevention ?....thats going to come from south east of the Med .Interesting site Historical maps of the Balkans Small wonder nobody knows who is who and owns what ....! everyones got a claim to the land . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 The 10 now joining are going to be net debitors , I dont understand the thinking behind the expasion eastwards ....Well, if they can get Russia on board, then all of a sudden, there will be easier access to the vast untapped, natuaral resource rich region known as Siberia.Mr. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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