The Grump Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vot...age/4521941.stmWas he pushed or did he jump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Whatever people think of him because he may look a little spooky, he has more honour in his little finger, than Cheesy has in the whole of his body. If Cheesy had any integrity he too would now go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belatucadrus Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Was he pushed or did he jump?Neither as he hasn't actually resigned yet, just acknowledging that he'll be too old next time round and setting the stage for the selection of a replacement, which is not only desirable, it's necessary.Wonder who's next, I still think Haigs their best shot, but he's not interested and Ken Clarke's too pro Europe to be other than divisive.If Cheesy had any integrity :loldbz_2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djohn Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Without taking sides in any political party, what Mr. Howard has done allows him to launch a constant attack on the Prime Minister to follow him and do the same thing. Mr. Blair is now unable to reply in the same manner. Excellent tactical move, I think. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Without taking sides in any political party, what Mr. Howard has done allows him to launch a constant attack on the Prime Minister to follow him and do the same thing. Mr. Blair is now unable to reply in the same manner. Excellent tactical move, I think.Are you not giving him more intelligence than he has? Mind you I suppose someone else could have thought it up for him!!! :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grump Posted May 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Whatever people think of him because he may look a little spooky, he has more honour in his little finger, than Cheesy has in the whole of his body.There is no such thing as a honourable politician. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadyassa Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Whatever people think of him because he may look a little spooky, he has more honour in his little finger, than Cheesy has in the whole of his body.There is no such thing as a honourable politician. :lol:Only horrible ones :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hes too old to fight the next one ....makes sense .... do it now David Davies ....perhaps ....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belatucadrus Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 There is no such thing as a honourable politician. :lol:Not true thank godThough I suspect they're in a minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Didn't Hauge go where...............:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 There is no such thing as a honourable politician. :lol:Not true thank godThough I suspect they're in a minority.This again takes me back to my posting. Whether you consider Howard to be honourable or not, he has certainly shown more honour than cheesy with his decision. Only 36% of the country voted for Cheesy, how many of these out of some form or another of bigotry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackrat Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Give it up Andsome whether you like it or not you will have to put up with Labour for at least another four years.Your obvious distaste for Blair is shared by me, but also I dread to think what will happen when Brown takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expertec Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Give it up Andsome whether you like it or not you will have to put up with Labour for at least another four years.Your obvious distaste for Blair is shared by me, but also I dread to think what will happen when Brown takes over.Possibly, but I don't believe Labour will last another full term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Give it up Andsome whether you like it or not you will have to put up with Labour for at least another four years.Your obvious distaste for Blair is shared by me, but also I dread to think what will happen when Brown takes over.I fully appreciate BOTH points, but we are now talking about honour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Give it up Andsome whether you like it or not you will have to put up with Labour for at least another four years.Your obvious distaste for Blair is shared by me, but also I dread to think what will happen when Brown takes over.Possibly, but I don't believe Labour will last another full term.We can but live in hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Possibly, but I don't believe Labour will last another full term.Why is that then? Surely you don't think that they will just give up government and hand power over to the Tories? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Possibly, but I don't believe Labour will last another full term.Why is that then? Surely you don't think that they will just give up government and hand power over to the Tories? :unsure:They almost tore themselves apart with a massive majority last time. With the commons now more able to keep Cheesy in check, there should be some fireworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edbanger Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Possibly, but I don't believe Labour will last another full term.Who is going to remove them from power? Because Howard as decided to resign does not make him honourable. He's going now before being ousted by the Tory backers who got rid of Duncan-Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 They almost tore themselves apart with a massive majority last time. With the commons now more able to keep Cheesy in check, there should be some fireworks.That should liven up Question Time a bit :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Because Howard has decided to resign does not make him honourable. He's going now before being ousted by the Tory backers who got rid of Duncan-Smith.How true this statement is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 if the economy does go down ....and Gordon Browns expenditure reductions kick in , around 2008 , ...I think Brown will go for the full 5 years ..(2 years under Blair , 3 under Brown ) Blair is going to have to compromise left right and centre , with a slimmer majority lHow true this statement is! The knives were being sharpened as soon as the exit polls came out ...(pretty accurate too ..... Portillo was already speculating on tv last Mon ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grump Posted May 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Blair is going to have to compromise left right and centre , with a slimmer majority lNot true.With a majority of over 60, only Labour politicians can bring down the new government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Blair is going to have to compromise left right and centre , with a slimmer majority lNot true.With a majority of over 60, only Labour politicians can bring down the new government.They almost managed it with a majority of more than 160. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 With a majority of over 60, only Labour politicians can bring down the new governmentI meant left , right and centre of his own party ........ hes going to have a bad case of the back bench bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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