catgate Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 We need some candidates that are prepared to live on their wages then we might get somewhere.Your on the right lines there. The problem seems to be that there is some sort of mental condition that causes pretty nearly everyone who is put in a position of dealing with large quantities of money to feel that they have a god given right to help themselves to a quantity of it.It mattereth not if it is a charity, a bank, a corporation or a government, if there is a large sum of money lying about someone will find justification for taking some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 The problem is that there are far too many people with the old view, (I have always voted Labour, they are for the working class, my parents and their parents voted Labour before me), they cannot see beyond the end of their noses. This view has about as much merit as saying the they would not vote Tory because they did not like Thatcher. She has long since gone.I disagree as 'old' Labour was proven to be bad for the country with the winter of discontent and numerous strikes bringing the country down to it's knees.I thought that 'New' Labour was different and I, as well as millions of people, were fooled.I would never vote Conservative and this has nothing to do with Thatcher but the reason is that the Tories always look after the rich and don't give a toss about the working class and poor.Cameron is just shedding 'crocodile tears' about the poor being hit with the abolition of the 10p tax rate as it was the Tories who voted against the national minimum wage, New Deal, etc.They are not much better than Labour in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 No one knows, he is as yet untried. I reserve judgement.Look at the last Tory government - 3 million unemployed, interest rates at 15%, record number of home repossessions!I say give the Liberals a chance and they are the party I'm going to vote for in the next general election despite their pro-European views (which I don't agree with by the way) as it doesn't really matter as we are in too deep in Europe now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 We need some candidates that are prepared to live on their wages then we might get somewhere.Your on the right lines there. The problem seems to be that there is some sort of mental condition that causes pretty nearly everyone who is put in a position of dealing with large quantities of money to feel that they have a god given right to help themselves to a quantity of it.Yes like the recent news that MP's have demanded that they get a £15,000 pay riseMy annual salary doesn't even add up to that amount :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Irene Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 We need some candidates that are prepared to live on their wages then we might get somewhere.Your on the right lines there. The problem seems to be that there is some sort of mental condition that causes pretty nearly everyone who is put in a position of dealing with large quantities of money to feel that they have a god given right to help themselves to a quantity of it.Yes like the recent news that MP's have demanded that they get a £15,000 pay riseMy annual salary doesn't even add up to that amount :(My pension certainly doesn't!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 My annual salary doesn't even add up to that amount :(You seem to forget that doing a job as strenuous and tiring as ruining a country needs a special sort of person and special people need special amounts of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 We need some candidates that are prepared to live on their wages then we might get somewhere.Your on the right lines there. The problem seems to be that there is some sort of mental condition that causes pretty nearly everyone who is put in a position of dealing with large quantities of money to feel that they have a god given right to help themselves to a quantity of it.Yes like the recent news that MP's have demanded that they get a £15,000 pay riseMy annual salary doesn't even add up to that amount :(My pension certainly doesn't!!I didn't know that you qualified for a pension when you are only twentynine years old. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 We need some candidates that are prepared to live on their wages then we might get somewhere.Your on the right lines there. The problem seems to be that there is some sort of mental condition that causes pretty nearly everyone who is put in a position of dealing with large quantities of money to feel that they have a god given right to help themselves to a quantity of it.Yes like the recent news that MP's have demanded that they get a £15,000 pay riseMy annual salary doesn't even add up to that amount :(My pension certainly doesn't!!I didn't know that you qualified for a pension when you are only twentynine years old. :DI didn't then. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 CurlyWhirly for Prime Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 CurlyWhirly for Prime Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 CurlyWhirly for Prime Minister Wouldn't want the job but the pay and allowances would be nice :D CurlyWhirly for Prime Minister Read my post above B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Matthew Paris ......Help..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 oink oink ...this should be fun Some of Tony Blair’s expenses claims, which the High Court last week ruled should be disclosed to the public, have been shredded. The documents, itemising Blair’s claims for household expenses during a year of his premiership, were destroyed in the midst of a legal battle over whether they should be published. All MPs’ expenses are funded by taxpayers. It is a criminal offence to destroy documents to prevent their disclosure under freedom of information (FOI) laws, but Westminster officials say they were unaware that the files were the subject of a legal challenge. They insist they were destroyed by mistake.TimesonlineI have to keep all my expense receipts and claims for 4 years as they may be required by inland revenue for review .... It is a legal compliance ...awright fer some though ..innit ..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 CRIMINALS, the whole damned bunch of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 CRIMINALS, the whole damned bunch of them. Agreed.It's ironic that the Freedom of Information Act is being used to force MPs to disclose their allowances and it was this Government that introduced the legislation :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 ...and that they are using our (tax payers) money to prevent us from finding out how they are spending our money in John Lewis on their luxuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 ...and that they are using our (tax payers) money to prevent us from finding out how they are spending our money in John Lewis on their luxuries Isn't that one in the middle "flobbering" his lower lip. Wonder where he go t that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Why do I get the feeling that it wont be too long before Brown will be taking a walk. Bribe :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 ...and that they are using our (tax payers) money to prevent us from finding out how they are spending our money in John Lewis on their luxuries http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...ticle_id=567121Hundreds of Blair's expenses claims have been destroyed, but Westminster officials insist the documents were destroyed by mistake and did not realise they were the subject of a legal challengeI find the above hard to believe when I read this...Court papers have now revealed that files covering claims of Myrobella, his Sedgefield constituency home, were destroyed by Commons officials after they rejected a request under the Freedom of Information Act.and this...Commons Speaker Michael Martin allowed officials to destroy claim forms and receipts up to April 2005 - meaning thousands of expenses have been secretly shredded.No wonder why people have such contempt for politicians who think they are above the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 be interesting to see which MP's have the biggest drop off in claims ,year on year, now theres going to be some transparency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 So who is making the decisions not to prosecute these criminals? Like others, when I was a rep I had to put in a receipt for absolutely every penny that I wanted to claim. Where does the CPS stand in all of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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