freddie2 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 I work with website builder software which recently encouraged using Explorer 8--which I had not downloaded yet because I converted to Firefox due to Explorer having bogged down my computer in the first place. But, through Firefox I began to not even be able to load my pages to edit with the software, so I thought I'd try doing the reccomended Explorer 8 upgrade and use it instead of firefox.I just upgraded to explorer 8 and now it takes about 5 minutes for my computer to boot and another ten for the set up process to complete--that being about 3 times longer than prior to its installation. Has anyone else had this problem? How can it be resolved?Also, it took a while for the text I was typing here in this post to show up in the window and the status bar kept flickering that the browser was unresponsive. This is really strange..Help, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Duplicate post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Duplicate post.Great point! I noticed that too and cannot tell you how that happened! Have you any input as to my situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 No just deleted your other post. Someone's sure to help though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 If I were in your position I would unplug the machine, take off it's side panels, and see how much dust you have collected within. I would then clean it all out, very carefully, being aware that a jet of air is the kindest way. Metal and static can kill a machine.Then I would contemplate testing the RAM, unless the HD is producing a death rattle.Also a good idea may be to try a linux live CD. This just might indicate if you have a hardware or software problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Do you by any chance have SpyBot Search & Destroy and/or Spyware Blaster installed on the problem PC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 If I were in your position I would unplug the machine, take off it's side panels, and see how much dust you have collected within. I would then clean it all out, very carefully, being aware that a jet of air is the kindest way. Metal and static can kill a machine.Then I would contemplate testing the RAM, unless the HD is producing a death rattle.Also a good idea may be to try a linux live CD. This just might indicate if you have a hardware or software problem.You have a great point; I have not dove into the internals of my computer in the five years that I have owned it. I live in a very 'dirty' environment where oxidation rates are also very high. But,...it's a laptop....and I see no way to open it. :(Hard drive death rattle? Hmmm, well, the fan is always on.I will look into linux live cd--thanks. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Do you by any chance have SpyBot Search & Destroy and/or Spyware Blaster installed on the problem PC ?Nope, not spybot but I did install malwarebytes last night, and it found and deleted 15 different 'threats'....I also tried a registry cleaner, because that has not been done in 5 years either, but after finding 800-something errors it wanted me to purchase an upgrade to remove them. I cannot afford gas to get me to work these days.... Anyway, the registry cleaner is uninstalled now.I am soooo not a techy. Does this latest version of Explorer put more of a demand on my likely already ailing system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Stay away from "registry cleaners" - they often do much more damage than good. In fact, there is nothing to be gained from deleting dead registry entries.Try CCleaner; it will remove lots of unused "crap" from your disk. Configure the cookies to keep before you run it first time. As per my above advice, don't use the registry cleaning portion, although I am told that it is quite safe.Try Startup Inspector; it will help you to remove unnecessary startup items. Use the Consult button to get information on most of the startup processes. If you are unsure about certain items, don't hesitate to ask here at the forum.Try defragging your main partition. There are some very good free programs available (e.g. Defraggler), but many of the forum regulars swear on the commercial Diskeeper (Home) product.Finally, if nothing helps, IE8 can be uninstalled at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artist Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Do you by any chance have SpyBot Search & Destroy and/or Spyware Blaster installed on the problem PC ?Do either of these make a difference then?I have the same problem with IE8 but mainly on opening - it's ok after.I've got Spyware Blaster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I was happy with IE8 after I had speeded things up, see a previous post, but it soon bogged down again so I went back to IE 7 which runs like lightning. Recently I decided to try IE 8 again after there had been updates, and it too was very fast. HOWEVER, hyperlinks in e mails would not open. I spent quite a time on the telephone with a technician from Microsoft. After trying absolutely everything he gave up and went back to IE7 again, he had taken over my computer remotely during this exercise. Since than he has telephoned me and let me know that others are experiencing the same problem, and that it has been passed over to senior technicians. He said that he had NEVER seen such a clean computer, practically no temporary files or clutter at all. The last thing that I do each shutdown is to use Diskeeper. Used so regularly it takes all of about 30 seconds to defrag. I then follow up with C Cleaner INCLUDING their registry cleaner, (the only one that I would recommend). I wonder if freddie 2 ever defrags or uses an anti Malware program. I have Spybot S and D installed plus Spyware Blaster, neither of which slow things down. I also do regular scans with Malware Bytes and SUPERANTiSpyware. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanHo Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I was happy with IE8 after I had speeded things up, see a previous post, but it soon bogged down again so I went back to IE 7 which runs like lightning. Recently I decided to try IE 8 again after there had been updates, and it too was very fast. HOWEVER, hyperlinks in e mails would not open. I spent quite a time on the telephone with a technician from Microsoft. After trying absolutely everything he gave up and went back to IE7 again, he had taken over my computer remotely during this exercise. Since than he has telephoned me and let me know that others are experiencing the same problem, and that it has been passed over to senior technicians. He said that he had NEVER seen such a clean computer, practically no temporary files or clutter at all. The last thing that I do each shutdown is to use Diskeeper. Used so regularly it takes all of about 30 seconds to defrag. I then follow up with C Cleaner INCLUDING their registry cleaner, (the only one that I would recommend). I wonder if freddie 2 ever defrags or uses an anti Malware program. I have Spybot S and D installed plus Spyware Blaster, neither of which slow things down. I also do regular scans with Malware Bytes and SUPERANTiSpyware. :DWhy do you use Diskeeper on shut-down?I have used Diskeeper over the years and have always had it set to defrag all my drives automatically in the background. No need for any manual intervention. It is a great tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 and... why not use CCleaner first, then Diskeeper? (No need to defrag the "C".) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Stay away from "registry cleaners" - they often do much more damage than good. In fact, there is nothing to be gained from deleting dead registry entries.Try CCleaner; it will remove lots of unused "crap" from your disk. Configure the cookies to keep before you run it first time. As per my above advice, don't use the registry cleaning portion, although I am told that it is quite safe.Try Startup Inspector; it will help you to remove unnecessary startup items. Use the Consult button to get information on most of the startup processes. If you are unsure about certain items, don't hesitate to ask here at the forum.Try defragging your main partition. There are some very good free programs available (e.g. Defraggler), but many of the forum regulars swear on the commercial Diskeeper (Home) product.Finally, if nothing helps, IE8 can be uninstalled at any time.Pat,Thank you SO much! I first did the CCleaner, then the start up inspector and my computer runs better than it has in years, using both browsers! While still being partial to Firefox I will now edit my website using IE8....even though it looks 'off' in preview mode because most of the editing was done through Firefox--oh well! I am just happy that my cursor actually goes into the body now--wooohooo!I did use the registry cleaner and it was really easy for this novice to do. Maybe I will not get that stupid "unresponsive script' message anymore.But, the defraggler I downloaded and launched and after analyzing about 1/3 of my files were fragmented--300,000-something fragments in all. When I went to defragment, though, it just stayed at 0% for a couple of hours. I am going to try again today.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I was happy with IE8 after I had speeded things up, see a previous post, but it soon bogged down again so I went back to IE 7 which runs like lightning. Recently I decided to try IE 8 again after there had been updates, and it too was very fast. HOWEVER, hyperlinks in e mails would not open. I spent quite a time on the telephone with a technician from Microsoft. After trying absolutely everything he gave up and went back to IE7 again, he had taken over my computer remotely during this exercise. Since than he has telephoned me and let me know that others are experiencing the same problem, and that it has been passed over to senior technicians. He said that he had NEVER seen such a clean computer, practically no temporary files or clutter at all. The last thing that I do each shutdown is to use Diskeeper. Used so regularly it takes all of about 30 seconds to defrag. I then follow up with C Cleaner INCLUDING their registry cleaner, (the only one that I would recommend). I wonder if freddie 2 ever defrags or uses an anti Malware program. I have Spybot S and D installed plus Spyware Blaster, neither of which slow things down. I also do regular scans with Malware Bytes and SUPERANTiSpyware. :DI try to defrag weekly using what came with my Dell as an 'accessory' but...I guess it does not do a thorough job? I have been looking for an anti-malware program that is free and won't tell you 'oh, we found a gazliion problems but you need to purchase something to get rid of them' and gave up a while back because that was all that I found out there. We had a meltdown on our network at my job and our technician recommended malwarebytes--specifically. I ran that for the first time the night before last...and...um...it seems to have helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie2 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Pat,I must add that now my video producing/editing software also works like a charm, and I had problems with that prior to coming here as well. THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgate Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 But, the defraggler I downloaded and launched and after analyzing about 1/3 of my files were fragmented--300,000-something fragments in all. When I went to defragment, though, it just stayed at 0% for a couple of hours. I am going to try again today.:)Try shutting down all other programmes whilst you defrag. Some programmes which run in the background can cause the defragger to keep returning to the beginning after a short while, particularly security programmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 If your partition is very heavily fragmented, then Defraggler can run for a very long time! When I tried Defraggler for the first time, it ran for 48 hours!So maybe my suggestion was not a very good one. Please try the free version of Diskeeper, called Diskeeper Lite. Version 7 can be found all over the Internet, but there is also a version 9, which can be downloaded for free from Intel. If you are interested, I can give you the link. (It is bundled with other software, and the download is very large!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I was happy with IE8 after I had speeded things up, see a previous post, but it soon bogged down again so I went back to IE 7 which runs like lightning. Recently I decided to try IE 8 again after there had been updates, and it too was very fast. HOWEVER, hyperlinks in e mails would not open. I spent quite a time on the telephone with a technician from Microsoft. After trying absolutely everything he gave up and went back to IE7 again, he had taken over my computer remotely during this exercise. Since than he has telephoned me and let me know that others are experiencing the same problem, and that it has been passed over to senior technicians. He said that he had NEVER seen such a clean computer, practically no temporary files or clutter at all. The last thing that I do each shutdown is to use Diskeeper. Used so regularly it takes all of about 30 seconds to defrag. I then follow up with C Cleaner INCLUDING their registry cleaner, (the only one that I would recommend). I wonder if freddie 2 ever defrags or uses an anti Malware program. I have Spybot S and D installed plus Spyware Blaster, neither of which slow things down. I also do regular scans with Malware Bytes and SUPERANTiSpyware. :DWhy do you use Diskeeper on shut-down?I have used Diskeeper over the years and have always had it set to defrag all my drives automatically in the background. No need for any manual intervention. It is a great tool.I have always fought shy of this option, just on the off chance that it might interfere if I am trying to install a program. I appreciate that this is unlikely as it is such a reliable program. However, as a defrag on closed down takes only seconds I stick with this method. Pat, I worded this wrong, I do of course use C Cleaner first followed by Diskeeper. I tried Defraggler and had problems with it, so it is definitely Diskeeper for me. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I have always fought shy of this option, just on the off chance that it might interfere if I am trying to install a program.I can vouch that it doesn't interfere with any software installations as, since buying a licence for Diskeeper 2009 around 6 months ago, I always make sure that the I/O Smart feature is enabled that temporarily stops Diskeeper if any hard drive activity is detected.However, as a defrag on closed down takes only seconds I stick with this method.Are you saying that on shut down Diskeeper only takes a few seconds to defrag your hard drive?It doesn't sound as if it is doing a proper defrag as there isn't enough time to carry it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 If you don't cause a great deal of fragmentation during your up-time activities, then a few seconds are quite enough to completely defrag a drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I can assure you that it does. If done every day, fragmentation just does not build up. My computer runs exceptionally fast. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 If you don't cause a great deal of fragmentation during your up-time activities, then a few seconds are quite enough to completely defrag a drive.I didn't know that.In any case I personally prefer to have diskeeper running in the background :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feranm_ie8team Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Hi my name’s Feran and I am working with the Internet Explorer Outreach Team to help provide assistance to folks about their Internet Explorer. For those having issues with your Internet running slow in IE8 you may be running too many add-ons. In IE go to ‘tools’ and ‘manage add-ons’ then disable/enable. Disabling any unnecessary add-ons may help you Internet run faster. Try disabling add-ons with more than a .2 sec load time.Hope this helps,Feran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hi my name's Feran and I am working with the Internet Explorer Outreach Team to help provide assistance to folks about their Internet Explorer. For those having issues with your Internet running slow in IE8 you may be running too many add-ons. In IE go to 'tools' and 'manage add-ons' then disable/enable. Disabling any unnecessary add-ons may help you Internet run faster. Try disabling add-ons with more than a .2 sec load time.Hope this helps,FeranWelcome to WF. I don't understand what you are getting at. Why should MS have designed IE 8 to run slower than IE7, if you use the same add ons as you used in IE7? WhAt is the point in offering add ons if they cause problems? There are also other problems occuring with IE 8. MS still have to get back to me regarding this one, mentioned earlier in this topic. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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