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A letter to Microsoft - People are unhappy with Vista...


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Couldn't get your link to work - server not found!

Of course; it's not a valid link. This is a valid link to a totally idiotic article. But then what would you expect from Yahoo? He's seriously comparing Vista with Windows ME (and Coke)...

Seem's to work fine for me..?! http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/18428/an-...ease-windows-xp

And what do you mean by "Of Cource"..???

It seem's as though alot of people would agree with that article...! From the comments left on that page... Others do not think it is "Idiotic"...

Allow OEMs to install XP instead of Vista, giving new PC buyers a choice. XP is easy to come by as shrinkwrapped software

Fixed Link -- SM

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Seem's to work fine for me..?! http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/18428/an-...ease-windows-xp

And what do you mean by "Of Cource"..???

I actually wrote "of course", and what I meant is that of course doug cannot open the link because it is an invalid URL

( [background=yellow]http://http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/18428/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-re-release-windows-xp] ) - I could not open it either.

And with "idiotic" I don't mean I disagree with the writer (I haven't tried Vista), but comparing Vista with ME. ME was a slighly patched version of 98, whereas Vista is the 3rd complete rewrite of Windows. This writer has no idea what he writes about, which - of course - does not surprise anyone. Yahoo always was and still is a kiddie website. Mr. Gates will not be very impressed when he receives that ridiculous "letter".

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Seem's to work fine for me..?! http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/18428/an-...ease-windows-xp

And what do you mean by "Of Cource"..???

I actually wrote "of course", and what I meant is that of course doug cannot open the link because it is an invalid URL

( [background=yellow]http://http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/18428/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-re-release-windows-xp] ) - I could not open it either.

hhhmmm , I didn't notice that part...

And with "idiotic" I don't mean I disagree with the writer (I haven't tried Vista), but comparing Vista with ME. ME was a slighly patched version of 98, whereas Vista is the 3rd complete rewrite of Windows. This writer has no idea what he writes about, which - of course - does not surprise anyone. Yahoo always was and still is a kiddie website. Mr. Gates will not be very impressed when he receives that ridiculous "letter".

Well i guess that is one person's "Opinion"....

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I still can't understand the haste of people in switching. XP suits me fine thanks.

You've got a bit if a stutter this morning andsome. :D

It's the forum up to its old tricks. I got a time out so went back one page and then posted again with the same result. It's happened before with the same result.

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No one has to buy Vista... it's not compulsory you know!!

You do if the major manufacturers ( i.o.w. - HP , Dell , Gateway , etc ) are being forced to sell it to you , These companies have agreements with other companies such as Microsoft to sell ( pre-package ) certain software and operating system's with the product's they are selling...

I'll bet right now , If i were to go down to my local Best Buy i would see all Vista computers on their shelves... Just like the TV commercials i've been seeing..

Like the disscusion i had with HP a little while back , I was told that they "Could Not" sell me a computer "without" Windows Pre-Installed..., That doing so would violate their agreement's with their partners..

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No one has to buy Vista... it's not compulsory you know!!

You do if the major manufacturers ( i.o.w. - HP , Dell , Gateway , etc ) are being forced to sell it to you , These companies have agreements with other companies such as Microsoft to sell ( pre-package ) certain software and operating system's with the product's they are selling...

I'll bet right now , If i were to go down to my local Best Buy i would see all Vista computers on their shelves... Just like the TV commercials i've been seeing..

Like the disscusion i had with HP a little while back , I was told that they "Could Not" sell me a computer "without" Windows Pre-Installed..., That doing so would violate their agreement's with their partners..

This strengthens my argument for NOT buying commercial name computers. If you don't feel that you have the ability to build one yourself, then use a local computer builder and have on it what YOU want, not what someone else tells you you must have.

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This strengthens my argument for NOT buying commercial name computers. If you don't feel that you have the ability to build one yourself, then use a local computer builder and have on it what YOU want, not what someone else tells you you must have.

There is a very good alternative: The PC Decrapifier.

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This strengthens my argument for NOT buying commercial name computers. If you don't feel that you have the ability to build one yourself, then use a local computer builder and have on it what YOU want, not what someone else tells you you must have.

Well yea , Either that - OR - Buy the commercial made computer ( brand name you want ) and then just "DECLINE" on the User Agreement that you would see after you first turn on the computer , Then just go out and purchase your own full copy of the system you want...

You can get a refund on the pre-installed system you didn't use...

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Really ? Is that easy ? Sory but I dont buy it :( It would be too nice.

A desktop computer I would make it from scratch, since for me there is no other way. But when it comes to a laptop, things get more difficult.

Remember the time when dell used to sell computers with Linux and chage for them more than 200$ than those with MS ? And this only after a life of struggle. :(

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I still think it's best NOT to have unwanted crap on the computer in the first place. I am sure that most areas will have at least one decent shop locally. There is also the question of support. When buying from a distant company, you can get involved in hours of premium rate telephone calls, speaking to faceless people. If you buy locally, support is always within easy reach. My son in law learned this lesson the hard way with Evesham, he spent a small fortune on getting it right. There is also the fact that should he ever need to reinstall Windows, he only has a repair disk, not a full installation one.

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There is also the fact that should he ever need to reinstall Windows, he only has a repair disk, not a full installation one.

And that is the main reason why i wouldn't be happy purchasing a new computer these days , I mean , If it crashes what do you do..? , Shell out another small fortune to replace what you shoulda' had to begin with..?

How stupid does Microsoft ( and these other major companies ) think we really are..?

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There is also the fact that should he ever need to reinstall Windows, he only has a repair disk, not a full installation one.

And that is the main reason why i wouldn't be happy purchasing a new computer these days , I mean , If it crashes what do you do..? , Shell out another small fortune to replace what you shoulda' had to begin with..?

How stupid does Microsoft ( and these other major companies ) think we really are..?

Buy from a local supplier and have exactly what you want, including an installation disk, and don't have things that you don't want in the first place, even though they are CLAIMED to be free. :D

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Buy from a local supplier and have exactly what you want, including an installation disk, and don't have things that you don't want in the first place, even though they are CLAIMED to be free. :D

I suspect this is now off topic, but as it has been mentioned a few times I should say that that is not always true. It is not always easy to discover the reliability etc of the "local" man and the extent of the support he can offer. For example, such a local man supplied a machine made to order for a relative of mine who made various enquiries before placing the order. The machine had to go back several times and it was apparent that the man did not have the facilities to cope. The machine was back in his workshop for weeks. When contacted he would say "Don't telephone me, it takes me away from my work. I will ring you" but days and weeks would go by without any contact.

I have been doing quite a bit of ferreting around recently and I cannot come up with anyone around here I would wish to got to. Although big suppliers, such as Evesham, Novatech etc. have cases where a customer may be dissatisfied, the broad consensus through customer surveys is good.

Thos.

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Buy from a local supplier and have exactly what you want, including an installation disk, and don't have things that you don't want in the first place, even though they are CLAIMED to be free. :D

I suspect this is now off topic, but as it has been mentioned a few times I should say that that is not always true. It is not always easy to discover the reliability etc of the "local" man and the extent of the support he can offer. For example, such a local man supplied a machine made to order for a relative of mine who made various enquiries before placing the order. The machine had to go back several times and it was apparent that the man did not have the facilities to cope. The machine was back in his workshop for weeks. When contacted he would say "Don't telephone me, it takes me away from my work. I will ring you" but days and weeks would go by without any contact.

I have been doing quite a bit of ferreting around recently and I cannot come up with anyone around here I would wish to got to. Although big suppliers, such as Evesham, Novatech etc. have cases where a customer may be dissatisfied, the broad consensus through customer surveys is good.

Thos.

At premium telephone rates.

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