The Election Fiasco

[AlanHo]

With just 30 odd seats left to declare it would appear that each party has suffered a disaster.

The conservatives will probably have 306 seats - 20 short of a majority

Labour will have 261 seats

LibDems 55 seats.

It is a disaster for the cons because despite the biggest swing in voting for many years - they have failed to achieve a majority.

It is a disaster for labour for obvious reasons

It is a special disaster for the LibDems who have lost half a dozen seats after being cofident of gaining 30 seats due to the Clegg factor.

The biggest disaster will be if Labour conspire with the LibDems to stay in power.

Another disaster is the number of voters locked out of polling stations who were not able to cope with the numbers. At least one polling station ran out of voting slips. It looks as though we are no longer able to organise an election at the basic level. A pox on all politicians and local authorities who have made such a cock up.

I am thinking of emigrating...............

[CurlyWhirly]

It is a disaster for the cons because despite the biggest swing in voting for many years - they have failed to achieve a majority.

So the opinion polls were right - a hung parliament :D

It is a special disaster for the LibDems who have lost half a dozen seats after being confident of gaining 30 seats due to the Clegg factor.

Yes that's a shock and just proves that people will say one thing (in the opinion polls) and then go ahead and vote for another party in the polling station!

The biggest disaster will be if Labour conspire with the LibDems to stay in power.

That's what I think will happen :(

Another disaster is the number of voters locked out of polling stations who were not able to cope with the numbers. At least one polling station ran out of voting slips. It looks as though we are no longer able to organise an election at the basic level. A pox on all politicians and local authorities who have made such a cock up.

Agreed.

The polling stations should have had enough ballot papers and more staff should have been brought in to cope with the masses as overall turnout is higher this time round.

[catgate]

Were the "lock outs" in constituencies where there were a lot of postal votes???

[andsome]

As things stand at the moment, Clegg has been true to his word and stated that Cameron should have the first chance to form a government. We can only hope that he will not make demands which obviously cannot be met, and Cameron will also have to compromise. The worst possible scenario would be for the Lib Dem's to prop up the worst PM since B'Liar.

[rong]

As things stand at the moment, Clegg has been true to his word and stated that Cameron should have the first chance to form a government. We can only hope that he will not make demands which obviously cannot be met, and Cameron will also have to compromise. The worst possible scenario would be for the Lib Dem's to prop up the worst PM since B'Liar.

Like proportional representation ;)

[catgate]

As things stand at the moment, Clegg has been true to his word and stated that Cameron should have the first chance to form a government. We can only hope that he will not make demands which obviously cannot be met, and Cameron will also have to compromise. The worst possible scenario would be for the Lib Dem's to prop up the worst PM since B'Liar.

Like proportional representation ;)

As I understand PR, each member of the population would vote for the party of their choice and then the number of seats allocated to each party would be decided on the proportion of people voting for which ever party. But the party would still decide who they would be. There could be no local MPs, only party Robots.

In effect it would ensure that there could be no minor parties at all and the three major ones would have a much clearer field.

But then again I might be wrong.

[Alan2273]

Oh dear Alan Ho, what happened in Solihull.

It was a safe Conservative seat, but no longer.

[Belatucadrus]

the worst PM since B'Liar.

No need to qualify it, just call him " THE worst PM " everybody will know who you're talking about.

[rong]

the worst PM since B'Liar.

No need to qualify it, just call him " THE worst PM " everybody will know who you're talking about.

That should be just call her " THE worst PM "

[andsome]

We are obviously in the presence of someone who actually likes the pillock.

[AlanHo]

Oh dear Alan Ho, what happened in Solihull.

It was a safe Conservative seat, but no longer.

We live on the boundary between Solihull and Knowle. It so happens that our Lane falls into the Knowle ward - just why is a mystery to me.

Our MP is Caroline Spellman (Con) and she got back in easily. She is an excellent MP and works tirelessly in the community.

The sitting LibDem MP for Solihull ward (Lorely Burt) won her seat in the 2002 election after a long campaign working hard in the town on local issues with the council. She was very successful helping to resolve some difficult issues and her efforts were rewarded by displacing the long serving conservative MP who had taken his eye off the local ball. As an MP she has continued to work hard for the local community and was rewarded yet again. It is a salutory lesson for other MP's who get apathetic in their constituency.

[rong]

We are obviously in the presence of someone who actually likes the pillock.

If you are meaning me them I think he is better than the the smarmy Cameron, and no where near as bad as Maggie, and as I have written many times I wouldn't vote Labour and have never voted Labour, I just have more sense than to think that the cons would do a better job of running the country, but they would probably do a better job of ruining the country. I think the hung parliament is the best thing we could have as they will now have to think about others to get anywhere, a first for politicians

[Gandalph]

I suspect that Nick Clegg will cut a deal with David Cameron and put him into number Ten. They will probably announce by Monday night. Whatever the Conservatives had in their 'TO DO' list will be scaled back which might be for the better.

[CurlyWhirly]

As things stand at the moment, Clegg has been true to his word and stated that Cameron should have the first chance to form a government.

Yes he seems a man of principle and I'm disappointed that the Lib Dems didn't fair better in the election after the 'Clegg mania' factor.

The worst possible scenario would be for the Lib Dem's to prop up the worst PM since B'Liar.

Yes that would be very undemocratic :0

[CurlyWhirly]

As I understand PR, each member of the population would vote for the party of their choice and then the number of seats allocated to each party would be decided on the proportion of people voting for which ever party.

This seems a fairer voting system as, in the present system, the Lib Dems only have a small proportion of the votes despite having more than half of the total Tory vote.

[CurlyWhirly]

I just have more sense than to think that the cons would do a better job of running the country, but they would probably do a better job of ruining the country.

I have never voted Tory but it's a well known fact that the Tories always leave office with the economy in a good state until Labour ruin it with wreckless taxing and spending policies.

The public were fooled by the tag 'new' Labour but over the last 18 months or so they have reverted to their traditional policies.

Since 1997, the National Debt has doubled and will reach £1.4 Trillion by 2014 :0

I think the hung parliament is the best thing we could have as they will now have to think about others to get anywhere, a first for politicians

Actually there was a hung parliament in 1974 and it was plagued by problems and led to a second general election being called a few months down the line!

I expect this to happen with the current hung parliament.

[Alan2273]

PR may seem fairer, but then the parties choose who sits in parliament not the voters.

[rong]

PR may seem fairer, but then the parties choose who sits in parliament not the voters.

To a point they do now, they put the ones they want in safe seats.

Also if they want you to vote in the next election they will have to give you good local representation or as your vote would then count you can vote for another party or another person.

[andsome]

Hung parliaments lead to weak indecisive government, with the minority partners ruling the roost with their demands, in order to keep the stronger party in power. Look at the bad spells many continental countries have had with election after election. If we don't do something about starting to rapidly reduce Labours huge unprecedented deficit we will end up the same as Greece has.

[AlanHo]

I know this may seem a bit radical - but I feel it is high time we cut Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland loose to run their own countries with their own parliament and their own money.

They are all a high cost to our economy and their vocal demands to be independent should be granted right now. This would re-write the map of our parliament - The party which would be the biggest losers is the party that has poured our hard earned taxes into two of these these countries to subsidise their benefits dependency in order to keep them voting for them.

Northern Ireland excepted of course - they have more sense than to vote labour - they vote Sinn Fein instead....another good reason to cut them loose.....

Edit : I just corrected a typo - I typed layabout rather than labour

[andsome]

The Welsh Plaid Cymru party have already said that their price for backing an English party would be £300,000,000 extra for wales.

[Gandalph]

Scotland can't afford to stand on it's own two feet. Alex Salmond thinks it can, but he is the only one that thinks that. If you get talking to the Scots and ask them if they would like to be an independent Country, free to choose their own Government they would tell you no. The Scots feel that as far as Great Britain go's, we have fought together in two world war's, died together, won together and should stay together.

Alex Salmonds' SNP Party had a big shock at the elections. He is now down to six seats. Non of the Scots like him and he is just full of himself.

Scottish Results.tiff

[CurlyWhirly]

PR may seem fairer, but then the parties choose who sits in parliament not the voters.

Yes that's a downside to the system and not very democratic !

[CurlyWhirly]

As I understand PR, each member of the population would vote for the party of their choice and then the number of seats allocated to each party would be decided on the proportion of people voting for which ever party.

This seems a fairer voting system as, in the present system, the Lib Dems only have a small proportion of the votes seats despite having more than half of the total Tory vote.

Edit: I meant to say seats in the House of Commons

[catgate]

Alex Salmonds' SNP Party had a big shock at the elections. He is now down to six seats. Non of the Scots like him and he is just full of himself.

In the last picture of him that I saw he was so full of something that he looked as though he would soon burst. Was the filling "him", or "bovine excrement", or both?