deuces wild Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Manchester United fans warn US tycoon ‘you buy, you die' 14.05.05 By the reaction of the fans massed outside Old Trafford, the hallowed ground of Manchester United, it was as if the football team had been relegated from the English premiership.But it was more serious than that - the club had fallen into American hands.In a deal worth 790 million ($2.05 billion), Florida tycoon Malcolm Glazer, 76, collected the world’s richest and most famous soccer club, adding it to the other sports team he owns, American football side the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.Outside Old Trafford, beneath the gaze of mounted police, mobs brandishing signs such as "You buy, you die" burned season ticket renewals and effigies of Glazer.Manchester had cheered when Glazer was thwarted last year in a bid to seize control of the Red Devils.But this time he became the majority shareholder after buying out the two Irish horse-racing tycoons whom fans believed would never sell.http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10125473Are the fans really that upset over the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 couldnt giva toss We got Chelski down in the smoke ... So uncle sam buys Man U on the tick ,sez hes got £20m for buying talent ( Chelski's annual bar bill ) big deal ...Asset strip and toll price hike cometh, methinks, in the true american way ....!fergie for the Dole.......... heh ..... Wayhay ...thar ladds ....arf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 I don't in all honesty expect it to make an earth shattering difference to my life. I cannot understand all the fuss. Anyone who pays the grossly inflated gate money these days, must have money to burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belatucadrus Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 One paper suggested that within a year he may have to sell the Bucs to finance the overdraft, so the folks of Tampa Bay may yet regret this exercise in sports financial muscle.Still not sure why he's done it, Man U is on the slide and unlikely to be champions for a few years if they do turn it around. Not going to be a bankable property in the USA. World merchandising saturated. It seems to be a no win situation, but what do I know, he's the multi millionaire, I'm not. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Ive got my stupid hat on ...... but I don't quite understand this ...... Hes taken out a massive loan to buy the shares , and he' s using the clubs assets as collateralto secure the loan , which hes just bought ...? , but the assets weren't his before he made the purchase ...? huh...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 I'm not a football fan. But ManU have no debts right now, the minute that he gets control they will be half a billion in debt. It doesn't sound quite right somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 I'm not a football fan. But ManU have no debts right now, the minute that he gets control they will be half a billion in debt. It doesn't sound quite right somehow.Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Who cares?50,000 odd, die hard Man U fans, i should think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 It wouldn't be the end of the world if they went bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rong Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 It wouldn't be the end of the world if they went bust.I now know which planet and where it's situated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie2 Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 It wouldn't be the end of the world if they went bust.Well it would be a big problem for lots of people employed by the club... and I'm not talking about players here either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intratech Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Anyways, it's looking rosy for the FA cup finals. !!GOOOoOOONER!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 It wouldn't be the end of the world if they went bust.Well it would be a big problem for lots of people employed by the club... and I'm not talking about players here either.Someone would take it over, and it would become a smaller operation. There is far too much money involved in the game now, with crazy wages, and ridiculous entry fees to the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Andsome, it may not be the "end of the world" for you (or me for that matter) if Man U folded but for a lot of people who support this club it would be akin to it, I can imagine if my club folded, I would be gutted. You seem to have a thing about this guy Gustav Mahler and I believe you would think the world would be a lesser place without this guy, this is how football fans feel about their clubs and possibly even more passionately than that as they go to see them every week, even when they are doing and playing badly and even when the club SH**S on them from a great hight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 When I was young I never used to miss a week at the Hawthorns, but I certainly didn't cry when the Baggies lost. The year that they beat Preston North End in the cup final I say every match except the final, as I couldn't get a ticket, but again it was not the end of the world. The semi final ticket cost 7/6 in old money or 37.5p in todays money. I know that we have had inflation but prices to watch football have gone through the roof out of all proportion. If people are prepared to pay the ridiculous entry fees asked today they must have more money than sense. Many families with parents on the dole will practically bankrupt themselves to buy a club shirt at probably fifty times it's real value. The football world has gone utterly crazy, and needs bringing back down to earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I agree the money is phenominal that players in the top flights get, but is this not the way the entertainment business is, after all sport is entertainment and look at the money some entertainment stars get, or even so called sports, for example Darts (pub game) lots of money there, also, snooker (again a game you play while having a couple of drinks) and again lots of cash for the players involved, it's not only the football world that has gone crazy it's the whole F****** World, we have people starving to death and living in poverty, then we have guys who have that much money they could buy a country, we have courts that seem to protect the criminals rights more than the victims, politicians who think they are entitled to the wage they get even though they do f*** all, Big Brother, Pop Idol, need I go on, and you think football is crazy :D On a more serious note, I also agree with you it's not life or death. i'm well aware that there is more to life than football, this was brought home to me at a early age when the only time I have shed a tear that had something to do with Rangers was the Ibrox disaster where 66 Rangers fans died, my father and his brother were at that game and my mum and aunt and the rest of the family were frantic as they were usually in about a hour after the game, by this time they were 3 hours overdue and trying to get information was a bit haphazard to say the least and the fatalities were rising, fortunately for us everything turned out okay, they were both first aid trained and had stayed to help as much as they could but hadn't thought to try and phone home, if my mum and aunt hadn't been so relieved to see them walk through the door I think they would have hit them with the nearest thing to hand, i'm not ashamed to say although a lot older than then, I did cry about two other football games, the games at Bradford and Hillsborough, these tragedies alone tell you there is more to life than football, but people are very passionate about the teams they support and anything they see as a threat to their teams well being or best interest they will show their feelings and get a bit heated about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces wild Posted May 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 There is nothing life or death about it.....I agree....such as the decision to go with IE or Firefox. :lol: :rolleyes: One indeed needs a hobby or a sport in life to divert ones attention and focus from the day to day grinds of work.....good for the old brain. :P I agree with you Ranger.....I was devastated when the Browns left Cleveland. I am a football fan (American style) and I lost interest in the sport during the time they were gone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with an interest in sports even if it means the couch potato kind of interest. :D Who me? :ninja: :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 In all honesty there is far more pleasure in watching an amateur team. You can't beat the sheer enthusiasm for the game itself. I get very irritated when a commentator mentions a professional foul. The game has become money mad, and sportsmanship has gone out of the window. It would be a good thing if Manchester United fans now decided en bloc to boycott the games for a few weeks, it might bring some sanity back into the game. They should also stop paying those ridiculous prices for replica clothing. Firefox also needs throwing out of the window, together with overpaid so called sportsmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Fireball Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 After we are done with Utd on Saturday, they will be wishing they didn't exisit anymore :D Up the Arsenal!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Up the Arsenal!!!!Exactly how far up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Manchester United fans have reacted angrily to Malcolm Glazer's plans for the club, revealed in detail in The Times this morning.According to documents seen by The Times, the Glazer business plan for Manchester United relies on aggressive measures to triple the club's profits, including raising ticket prices by 54 per cent by 2010 and limiting transfer funds to £25 million pounds per seasonThe Times online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Apparently it does mean life or death to some Yesterday, Reuters reported that police are investigating threats made by militant fans against directors of the club. A group of supporters calling themselves the Manchester Education Committee or MEC said in a statement released on the internet: "All senior figures within the club are considered ’fair game'... The Committee would like to stress that it will at no stage seek out ’soft’ targets, but that it can only speak for its own members." The most explicit threats were made against David Gill, the chief executive of the club who some fans thought did not do enough to protest Mr Glazer's bid. The police said they were taking the threats seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 If anyone is daft enough to pay the prices that he is going to demand, they want their heads looking into. If people refused to pay, then that would be the end of his plans. Why are people so gullible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdy Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Apparantly there are 100,00 supporters on the waiting list for season tickets at Man U.If you joined the list today it would take eighteen years to get to the front of the queue.He's gambling on there's plenty out there daft enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Apparantly there are 100,00 supporters on the waiting list for season tickets at Man U.If you joined the list today it would take eighteen years to get to the front of the queue.He's gambling on there's plenty out there daft enough.Good luck to him then. Who can blame him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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