Fuel price protest movement.

[andsome]

Just received this e mail which may be of interest.

Dear Keith,

Last week I was informed that a group called Transaction 2007 had plans this weekend to release a statement announcing some kind of protest action relating to the price of fuel in the UK. I have just read a statement published on their web site in which they have confirmed that they are going to organise legal protest action, and that it could begin as early as this Wednesday.

I have got more on the PetrolPrices.com blog about this:

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/petrol-pr...dnesday-86.html

We will of course be following the story as it unfolds next week to keep you informed. If you want to express your opinion about the plans you can do so on our blog, as always, by leaving your comments and voting in our polls.

Regards,

Brendan

Brendan McLoughlin

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PetrolPrices.com

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[-pops-]

Talk about bad timing!

Whatever form this protest takes (assuming it is real) then the couple of weeks prior to Christmas is not going to gain sympathy from many quarters.

People are preparing for a celebratory holiday and anything that interferes, or might interfere, with that will engender the wrath of many.

Could be bloody.

[Tankus]

It is real

[CurlyWhirly]

Talk about bad timing!

Whatever form this protest takes (assuming it is real) then the couple of weeks prior to Christmas is not going to gain sympathy from many quarters.

People are preparing for a celebratory holiday and anything that interferes, or might interfere, with that will engender the wrath of many.

Could be bloody.

Agreed.

As much as I feel that petrol prices are a rip off, planning a protest at Christmas time is silly

[andsome]

If you read the links, you will see that the protest will be at various refineries later on this month.

[Sir T Fireball]

The sods better not prevent my flight to Cuba on Thursday morning :lol:

[Tankus]

The group behind the fuel refinery blockades that gripped the country in 2000 has announced it will stage fresh protests this Saturday.

In a statement released on its website this morning, Transaction 2007 said the rise of the price of petrol to £1 a litre had caused it to take action.

Guardian

"This date was decided by members as the best possible to ensure those who would normally be working during the week to attend. This action will be initiated at a refinery or storage depot somewhere near you," the statement said.

[deuces wild]

It will never work.........folks will eventually have to purchase gasoline.

The only answer is to develop alternative fuels and eventually replace the combusition engine as we know it today with something that runs on cheap, reliable and readily available energy.

[doug]

What does Shank's pony eat?

[Tankus]

Tesco's basic's ...?

[CurlyWhirly]

The only answer is to develop alternative fuels and eventually replace the combusition engine as we know it today with something that runs on cheap, reliable and readily available energy.

You are lucky in the US as you have cheap petrol :(

Over here we pay far too much petrol tax and in my view it's just Government greed

[deuces wild]

The only answer is to develop alternative fuels and eventually replace the combusition engine as we know it today with something that runs on cheap, reliable and readily available energy.

You are lucky in the US as you have cheap petrol :(

Over here we pay far too much petrol tax and in my view it's just Government greed

Agreed, but folks here are complaining about the fuel prices.

Regardless, a one day or one week boycott will not work. Not only will people not respect it but those who do will eventually have to purchase gas for their vehicles.

The best solution is as I originally stated.......we need to rid our dependance on fossil fuels. B)

[CurlyWhirly]

but folks here are complaining about the fuel prices.

Your joking aren't you as petrol is relatively cheap compared to the UK

The best solution is as I originally stated.......we need to rid our dependance on fossil fuels. B)

LPG (Liquid Petroleum Gas) is a good fuel alternative and relatively cheap but I expect that if and when it became popular, the UK Government would tax it to death like they have with petrol

[catgate]

The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed.

Thus all the amount of energy in our system, the earth, is constant, apart from that which we receive constantly from the sun.

The energy we have received in the past is locked up in various forms and mankind has been, and is still, trying to unlock it for his own use. It makes little difference if one views energy as heat, or light or even just raw energy in its kinetic or potential form, it is still energy, and our use of it is generally in the form of heat in one way or another .

So what ever way we strive to reduce global warming we need first of all to get rid of a lot of the heat that can not get through the "greenhouse" and at the same time get rid of a lot of population.

All the talk about nuclear versus wind versus wave versus parliamentary hot air is of no use because all are simply concerned with converting one sort of energy into another.

The clever trick would be to find a way of converting waste heat into rock (eg limestone and thus locking up some CO2) but there is no quick profit down that road.

[deuces wild]

Air............the solution to it all. It is all around us and free.

When we can extract hydrogen at a reasonable cost we free ourselves from our oil dependence.

[CurlyWhirly]

In the UK over half of the cost of the petrol is tax and my view is that the Government uses global warming as an excuse to tax us.

Also this tax isn't used to improve the roads or public services or even tackle global warming but is instead used on other Government spending.

Petrol is expensive enough as it is and it is due to go up another 3p in April :(

[Tankus]

· We are on the eve of a new world energy order. oildrum

· On the supply side, we have oil production outside the core OPEC countries reaching a peak, which is not good news for the International Oil Companies (OKs). The National Oil Companies (NOC) will determine future oil supply.

· On the demand side, China and India are transforming global energy markets through their sheer size and rate of economic growth.

· Between now and 2030, China and India will account for 70% of new global oil demand, and 80% of new coal demand.

That last bit is the kicker ......

At over $100 per barrel Canada's massive oil shale deposits look to be more economically viable for extraction (as big as the size of England, a greater volume of reserves than the whole of Saudi )

Also big field's up in the Arctic circle and around the Falklands /southern circle , we are not going to run out just as yet , but our noses as going to hurt .....as we pay through them

This is the main reason why Canada has not signed up to the Kyoto agreement , the environmental costs are enormous ..... CO2 output, water table pollution, and open cast ..

Most tar sands production takes place in vast open-pit mines, some as large as 150 square kilometres and as deep as 90 meters. Before strip-mining can begin, the boreal forest must be clear-cut, rivers and streams diverted, and wetlands drained. The overburden (the soil, rocks, and clay overlying the tar sands deposit) must be stripped away and stockpiled to reach the bitumen. Four tons of material are moved to produce every barrel of bitumen.

At current production rates, with just three mines operating, enough material is moved every two days to fill a 60,000-seat stadium. But only a small fraction of the bitumen deposits is close enough to the surface to be strip-mined. Over 80 percent of the established tar sands reserves are deeper and must be extracted in situ (in place) by injecting high-pressure steam into the ground to soften the bitumen so it can be pumped to the surface.

Once separated from the sand, the bitumen is still a low-grade, heavy fossil fuel that must undergo an energy-intensive process to upgrade it into a synthetic crude oil more like conventional crude, either by adding hydrogen or removing carbon. Upgrading the bitumen usually occurs before it is shipped to refineries, but sometimes raw bitumen is diluted (e.g., with naphtha) and pipelined to a refinery where it is both upgraded and refined. In the United States about three-quarters of the oil is refined into transportation fuels.

Days of cheap oil are over

[andsome]

I have been thinking of installing a wood burner in my Civic. I wonder how many miles per log I would get. :lol:

[catgate]

I have been thinking of installing a wood burner in my Civic. I wonder how many miles per log I would get. :lol:

You might be too young to remember it but I can remember buses and wagon, in the early part of the war, towing around a thing which looked like a cast iron pot bellied stove. They were producing gas which of course was piped into the engine.

There was also a joiners shop, in the village where we lived prior to moving here, that was similarly powered by sawdust. The gas was piped into a wonderful horizontal single cylinder engine with a ten foot flywheel. He did eventually convert to mains gas because it was less bother.

So there are two wonderful examples for you to emulate!

[andsome]

I have been thinking of installing a wood burner in my Civic. I wonder how many miles per log I would get. :lol:

You might be too young to remember it but I can remember buses and wagon, in the early part of the war, towing around a thing which looked like a cast iron pot bellied stove. They were producing gas which of course was piped into the engine.

There was also a joiners shop, in the village where we lived prior to moving here, that was similarly powered by sawdust. The gas was piped into a wonderful horizontal single cylinder engine with a ten foot flywheel. He did eventually convert to mains gas because it was less bother.

So there are two wonderful examples for you to emulate!

Sounds good. Do you think 'El Gordo would tax it? :lol:

[Gandalph]

Sounds good. Do you think 'El Gordo would tax it? :lol:

Are you kidding andsome. The bloody Government in Britain would tax sex if they knew how many times individuals had it. :D

[rong]

Sounds good. Do you think 'El Gordo would tax it? :lol:

Are you kidding andsome. The bloody Government in Britain would tax sex if they knew how many times individuals had it. :D

They still could on averages, just hope they ask the women about how many times it happens, I couldn't afford the men's amount.

[AlanHo]

Are you kidding andsome. The bloody Government in Britain would tax sex if they knew how many times individuals had it. :D

I have no objections to such a tax provided they tax it by the inch.............

[catgate]

Are you kidding andsome. The bloody Government in Britain would tax sex if they knew how many times individuals had it. :D

I have no objections to such a tax provided they tax it by the inch.............

You mean like the old way they used to charge for the classified ads. in newspapers.....so much per inch per insertion.

[AlanHo]

You mean like the old way they used to charge for the classified ads. in newspapers.....so much per inch per insertion.

I am not allowed to provide classified information................ B)