Scarecrow Man Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Patch Tuesday has arrived, and SP3 is now part of your automatic updates.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Did that come as a "Critical" or "Optional" update?Also, do you know the build number of this service pack version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I had a look at what they advise you to uninstall before installing Service pack 3.• Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit• Remote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for Windows XP)Looked on list add/remove - cant find so run Microsoft shared and got this a file called Protect > then S-1-5-18 then>user open that and zero. is this it?Tried to run 925877 but cant get the right criteria as update for windows etc windows says not right description to find it etc.I have notify but don't install so haven't installed yet.I find this sort of thing a bit beyond me - help :DAlso being the Big Cheese - dont you think they could for us non geeks - get a uninstall tool to run before installing as this is easy for them and saves problems for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-pops- Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Don't worry, Lamb Chop, there are going to be an awful lot of people in a similar situation as you.I am not downloading for a good long time - long enough for MS to sort out the almost inevitable further problems there will be with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 OK then I will not install it until you say so on this thread so I get notified :D Thanks pops - your bloods worth bottling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Day There Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hotfixes included seem to be quite promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I have been notified this morning about SP3 but will wait a while yet before installing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I will wait until I have time to do a full back up in Acronis. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I had a look at what they advise you to uninstall before installing Service pack 3.Microsoft Shared Computer ToolkitRemote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for Windows XP)It is very unlikely that home users have any of these installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I am not downloading for a good long time - long enough for MS to sort out the almost inevitable further problems there will be with this.I'm with -pops- on this :)Tried it again on my other XP Home PC last night using the standard Windows Update install and got this error :-http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377/I've since tried Method 1 and Method 2 as they suggest - but still no good :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I first of all made a Drive Image 7 backup 'image' and then downloaded and installed Service Pack 3 and am pleased to report that there are no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dencandy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I'm waiting till the (genuine) disk becomes available here in South Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Did that come as a "Critical" or "Optional" update?Also, do you know the build number of this service pack version?Yep. Critical update; since it contains quite a few previous critical updates.The build number I do not know, as I have not yet installed it. Every user of this forum knows to make a good backup before installing such software, of course its an even better idea to have a read over this topic before installing this product even though this through automatic updates.http://forums.windowsforum.org/index.php?showtopic=36053 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalph Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I downloaded it last night when the Updates Shield came up on the System Tray. I let it do it's own thing and it installed no problem. Everything running as well as ever with no problems to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 The build number I do not know, as I have not yet installed it.I have re-downloaded the latest official download, and it is still build 5512 - there is nothing new it it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Can I ask a silly question? If most of the updates we already have are included in this SP3 - why do we need it as we have them updates. Does it then replace them? If we do nothing - what happens? is it to make us all go update to Vista?Just wondering being a complete novice :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 After making a new Acronis back up, I have just this minute finished the installation. Everything went very smoothly. The actual installation took a lot longer than the download. The restart was also very prolonged with several cmd windows appearing and disappearing. All seems fine so far. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Can I ask a silly question? If most of the updates we already have are included in this SP3 - why do we need it as we have them updates. Does it then replace them? If we do nothing - what happens?A large lot of Windows modules/components have been rebuilt; the build number of the current release is 5512. This is much cleaner than hundreds of individual module replacements, and future updates may not be allowed if you don't have SP3 installed.As I have mentioned in another place, Windows XP is noticeably faster than before; some people have actually measured it and published that it is 12% faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyWhirly Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 After making a new Acronis back up, I have just this minute finished the installation. Everything went very smoothly. The actual installation took a lot longer than the downloadIt would do as it's only a small download (which takes next to no time on broadband) and the installation process is quite complex as the installation routine needs to make backups of existing files, etc, and this takes a fair amount of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Man Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 The actual installation took a lot longer than the downloadTry it on Dialup :lol:... 6 hours laterOK. Finished! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan2273 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 I installed it on my main machine and no problems.The test machine which had it installed a week ago, is no more, the motherboard died yesterday,this was nothing to do with SP3, (the northbridge heatsink had detached itself), still it gives me a good excuse to upgrade it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have been reading up on this and this was interesting to me anyway. Seeing as IE7 is a not only a no no on the old one but on this computer too. I use IE6 and it seems once you have SP3 you are forever stuck with the one you currently use :D From Washington Post.As the SANS Internet Storm centre notes, people who for whatever reason are still using Internet Explorer 6 will NOT be upgraded to IE7 after installing this service pack. However, if you already have IE7 on your system when you install Service Pack 3, you will not be able to migrate back to IE6Lots more about it on this site.http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4387Washington Post techs are advising ordinary users not to download it for a while until the gremlins which caused it not to be released a week ago are fixed as they have put in filters for now. Means not a lot to me but may to you guys I will wait for Pops on this one as he is waiting too. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ɹəuəllıʍ ʇɐb Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have been reading up on this and this was interesting to me anyway. Seeing as IE7 is a not only a no no on the old one but on this computer too. I use IE6 and it seems once you have SP3 you are forever stuck with the one you currently use :DThat's not what the article says.If you are an IE 6 user, SP3 will simply updated [sic] your IE 6 installation. You will continue to be able to upgrade to IE 7 as an option.Anyway, since IE8 is just around the corner, why worry about IE7...? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have been reading up on this and this was interesting to me anyway. Seeing as IE7 is a not only a no no on the old one but on this computer too. I use IE6 and it seems once you have SP3 you are forever stuck with the one you currently use :DThat's not what the article says.If you are an IE 6 user, SP3 will simply updated [sic] your IE 6 installation. You will continue to be able to upgrade to IE 7 as an option.Anyway, since IE8 is just around the corner, why worry about IE7...? :lol:OOps yes the quote is from Washington Post and this is from the Sans Internet storm centreIf you are an IE 6 user, SP3 will simply updated your IE 6 installation. You will continue to be able to upgrade to IE 7 as an option.If you are an IE 7 user, it will update your IE 7 installation. HOWEVER, you will NOT be able to go back to IE 6 after applying this service back.If you are an IE 8 (beta) user, you will need to uninstall IE 8, apply the service pack, and then reinstall IE 8. :D I dont want IE7 and it hates this Dell Computer just as it hated my old Packard Bell one too. Not alone as many found same problem with it.Hope IE8 is better have you tried the beta then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsome Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 After a careful back up I tried IE8 BETA, but it was causing slight problems, so I got rid of it. Microsoft support were very interested, but I told them that I wanted to wait for the official release. So far SP3 is running like a dream on my computer, complete with IE 7. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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